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Hinouchi

TD Admin
fuck yea! US gonna boycott all Russia made stuff! like ... NOTHING! but wow didn't know Russia export that much oil + gas to the US, thought the US get most of their oil + gas at the middle east country.
 

MetalLobster

TD Admin
fuck yea! US gonna boycott all Russia made stuff! like ... NOTHING! but wow didn't know Russia export that much oil + gas to the US, thought the US get most of their oil + gas at the middle east country.

38.1 bn is not much compared to the near 500 bn Canada and US exports to each other, where most of the exports from Canada to US is oil.
 

Steve

TD Admin | Bacon
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lol, what's the US going to do? Stop buying Oil?

Russia provides less than 5% of our crude oil/petroleum.

Pretty sure the Republican's are using this fiasco as a reason to push the Keystone pipeline through.

Also which economy do you think will hurt more from losing the other? America, or Russia?

Neither country needs the other, but one certainly will feel the trade loss more than the other.
 

Steve

TD Admin | Bacon
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Steve

TD Admin | Bacon
the anti Russia crowd isn't pro Nazism bj... that's likely the pro-russia groups advertisement. typical political move.. liken the opposition to the nazi party to brainwash derps into your cause.

Kind of like how having any progressive or liberal ideals and fox news makes you out to be a communist
 

Fork Included

TD Admin
the anti Russia crowd isn't pro Nazism bj... that's likely the pro-russia groups advertisement. typical political move.. liken the opposition to the nazi party to brainwash derps into your cause.

Kind of like how having any progressive or liberal ideals and fox news makes you out to be a communist

and you know this because you've walked the streets of Ukraine.

while not even close to a representative mintority, there are many openly hateful people in Russia/Ukraine that denounce anyone whose not pure-pick-your-thing.

they want a pure Ukrianian Ukraine. White people who only speak one language and believe in only one set of values... and they want everyone else out.
 

Cock

Cockilicious
Staff member
If Putin starts rolling in the army what is the world going to do but sit back and watch? Fuck world sat back and watch Assad use chemical weapons on his own people.

The US isn't going to antagonize Russia regardless of the little trade between them. At the moment anything the US does will make precious oil prices skyrocket and the markets will go fuckery.

The US is going to squawk and flail their arms in a menacing manor, doing anything else would be stupid.
 

$alvador

TD Member
U.S. didn't even do shit when China announced their fucking no-fly zone infringing on the same type of zone outlined by a country the U.S. has a defense treaty with. U.S. IS FUCKING SOFT!!!
 

Cock

Cockilicious
Staff member
U.S. didn't even do shit when China announced their fucking no-fly zone infringing on the same type of zone outlined by a country the U.S. has a defense treaty with. U.S. IS FUCKING SOFT!!!

Thing is you don't hear about the things they do, Obama is so secretive about any military action, by the time the public hears about It months have gone by before anything is released. Part of that is because it's all drone related attacks and people don't like drone attacks.

Inb4 USA elects a war mongering leader who likes to swig his dick around.
 

Fork Included

TD Admin
yep

at least the Russians are open and consistent in their propoganda

unlike the US, that has still has FOX streaming daily to everyone in America and no one says a word about that.
 

Steve

TD Admin | Bacon
What the fuck does fox being on the air have to do with russia blocking websites.

Last time I checked foxnews IS obama's opposition

your political opinions are so hypocritical its sad.

Brades ades has more respectable believes
 

Steve

TD Admin | Bacon
How is lying to the general population any different then propaganda?

Because its not state sponsored propaganda? Its political party lead propaganda( WHICH IS STILL TERRIBLE BUT THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE) and its does not stop or attempt to stop other sources of media from existing.

Last time I checked conservatives/republicans/foxnews have never blocked the lefts ability to preach its opinions. and vice versa.


If you can't see the difference between shitty bias/bullshit media and state ran censorship you are drinking way to much haterade.
 

Fork Included

TD Admin
there is no difference steve

if you have 4 propaganda channels and you cut 1 of them, you still have propaganda

if you have 3 propaganda channels and 1 "real news channel" (doesn't really exist), then you still have 3 propaganda channels that are feeding propaganda to 3 out of 4 people on a daily basis.


and in reality, the 2nd scenario creates tension on the groundfloor, because you have 1 guy following the truth and have to fight tooth and nail with the other 3 idiots

for politically or economically unstable countries it is actually better to be all fed the same lies, at least that way you can try to bring order and accomplish something

Right now Ukraine/Russia don't need scholarly discussions, they need to finish this up and move forward. The people over there don't have the luxury of sitting on their chairs, smoking weed, discussing how nice everyone should be to each other.
 

MetalLobster

TD Admin
Last time I checked conservatives/republicans/foxnews have never blocked the lefts ability to preach its opinions. and vice versa.

Well, blocking a particular group's ability to put out their opinion doesn't benefit anyone in the realm of NA politics, because the opposing party can pull out the freedom of speech card and put offending Members of Parliament/Congress and/or PM/President under heavy scrutiny. Worst case scenario, impeachment or force prorogation due to no-confidence.

The best you can do to stiff the other team per se, is to discredit them and their medium. I'm sure we are all aware of how that is done.
 
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