EvE

$alvador

TD Member
now that i know by experience that CS:GO is a crock of fuck I'm gonna promote this much awesomer game.

For those not in the know, basically EvE is an MMO. That does mean some of the mechanics are the same as other MMOs but the focus is very much on PvP and PvE stuff, unlike in other MMOs, is only meant as a method to help generate in-game currency to buy better equipment with.

Why it's awesome: there's no fairy dust elves or orc magic bullshit. You get a spaceship with a cargobay you can load up with missiles, laser crystals, bullets, exotic dancers and spirits (those are all actual in-game items) and you head out to go and rape other ships with your corporation brethren. Corporation is what they call it (as opposed to clan or guild) because you have to grind isk (in-game currency) to fund your spaceships to blow up flashier enemy spaceships.

There are a shitload of professions you can get involved in, some of which are not even developed by CCP (the company responsible for the game) but rather spawned organically by the community. You can be a miner, or an industrialist building all the items on the in-game market, or a trader buying and selling those items, or a highwayman who lives by his own rules and ransoms poor fuckers traveling through space with too much loot in their cargo, or just part of a corporation that fleets up to go roaming and fuck shit up and grab loot like a boss. And that's only the tip of the iceberg. Like capitalism, you can do anything if there's a means to make money off it.

While trading/mining/manufacture/PvE (spreadsheet shit) is where the isk to buy ships flows from, the ultimate objective is to roam in better ships and fuck with more impressive fleets. To that end, there are literally dozens of different ships from tiny frigates with fangs to gigantic titan-class ships that are 18km in length and have the tank and gank of a whole fleet.

Each ship comes with a unique variety of strengths and a number of different modules you can fit onto it which improve its capabilities. There are offensive slots you can fill with rocket/missile/torpedo launchers, autocannons, artillery, lasers, blasters, railguns and other tactical aces up your sleeve. There are drones you can plop in a drone bay, either to swarm an enemy and deal damage or to break the enemy's lock on you and make them unable to deal you damage. There are slots you can fill with warp disruptors to keep an enemy on field so they can't escape your wrath, and finally there are damage multipliers of all flavours and tank modules that can buff your shields, armor or hull hitpoints to keep you alive longer. If all that shit isn't enough (i didn't even cover all of it), you can even overheat your weapons to deal more damage and boosters/drugs you can inject to boost stats on field to outlast and outkill. Not only that, every gun and turret and armor plate has detailed statistics that tell you whether you can fit it to your ship, how much of it you can handle, how far it shoots, how fast it shoots, etc. If you like technical details, this is your heaven.

In conclusion, it's a very technical game which has always been its blessing, and whether it becomes a timesink or something you do just for kicks on the weekend is entirely up to you. For the record, I never liked MMOs and only love this game because it's unlike the rest of them which are fake and gay. If you like the competitive side of CS, you are sure to enjoy EvE because there's no game experience quite like fleeting up with friends all in unique ships with unique capabilities and running into an enemy fleet to engage them and work in sync with all those unique capabilities to pull off an awesome win by totally demolishing a few hundred million isk in enemy ships which you feel damn proud of doing because you know it took them some fucking effort to make all that in-game currency. End of story. Get this game.
 

Leroy

2012 Troll of the Year
tl;dr

I tried it, thought it would speak to me, I'd love to give it another crack, but mining asteroids all day makes leroy's feeble mind hurt.
 

$alvador

TD Member
haha I haven't mined a rock since my first month of play. There are pretty much two types of players: PvE guys who mine rocks and build everything on the in-game market, and PvP guys who buy stuff off the in-game market to strap to ships and go blow up other ships. It's very much a yin and yang, you have to get involved in some sort of activity to make in-game currency to afford bigger and better ships that are more fun to fly but that activity doesn't have to be mining rocks
 

$alvador

TD Member
OK one last bump to generate some interest before I abandon this thread. Why do I care so much? Because a lot of you guys are bigger gamers than I could ever be and even I think you deserve better than the crap you're playing now. SO hear me out.

EvE is not a game you can judge by screenshots, gameplay videos or even by spending a few minutes playing it then deciding "oh fuck this I don't want to have to use a calculator while playing a game". Sometimes, this game is fucking boring. That's a fact of EvE as much as it is a fact of life. Most days it's nothing like some FPS where you can jump in and murder for thirty minutes then call it a good session.

EvE is a game that really makes you earn the days when everything went well for you, and you made money, and you kicked ass, and you didn't lose your ship, and all the shitty days makes those win days all the much sweeter. It's a game where at any moment you could be sucked into a drunken fleet of crazy fucks from all walks of life and wind up winning against remarkable odds, then the next day you log in to find some German you've never met from across the globe is saluting you in local chat as you fly through their solar system because he heard from some guy who heard from another guy who rolled with your corp once what kind of crazy shit you pulled off the night before.

That is where you begin to understand what EvE is. It's like the panopticon and you are in there with every other one of the thousands who play the game globally, on the same server, at the same moment, sharing the same frame of context. You tend to value your friends and enemies a lot more when you can't just get away from them by joining some other server (there is no other server) or logging off. They will be there when you get back, and you will have to choose your allies if you hope to deal with them. At this point, EvE stops being a game and more of "something I do" in which your actions have consequences and the people you talk shit at on comms are not just your homefags derping away in another game but brothers in arms in this cosmic internet struggle who are depending on you to help get them out of shit when the Russians come. And the Russians always come.


edit: if you do decide to give it a shot now that i've sexed it up properly, shoot me a PM and i'll link you to my corp's chan any of us will be happy to show you the ropes and get you into a fleet to go pop your first internet spaceship (TS3 is a must)
 

Cock

Cockilicious
Staff member
I played EvE about 8 years ago it is an absolutely great game. If you like MMO's it's great, literally second to none.

For what ever reason I can't get into MMO's anymore.
Glad your enjoying it Sal truly is a fucking huge universe they keep creating and expanding. I used to love exploring it.
 

Leroy

2012 Troll of the Year
SAL, I might give it another go. Do you speak english, mother fucker?

Mumble. Set a time and date and place and I'll be prepped to go.
 

mandy

TD Member
My boss apparently goes batshit crazy for this game.

What is the appeal? TELL ME. I must know.
 

iSeize

TD Admin
ask your boss, hes obviously balls deep in asteroids. Or theres that google thing.

personally the game didnt speak to me either. WoW was enough of an MMO, i really didnt need more stuff to do. i beleive i fell asleep at the wheel of my ship playing that game, about 3 or 4 hours in to it, which never happened before or since. Drugz almost pissed himself laughing when he found me snoring in my chair.

I do remember asking someone to actually do something exciting in that game once, because they always had it on screen when i went over. I left about 3 hours later, still not seeing a spec of combat.

So, basically, you always need more time. always.

I applaud the idea of the game but its execution is the only thing that keeps gamers away, the learning curve is too big.
 

Cock

Cockilicious
Staff member
personally the game didnt speak to me either. WoW was enough of an MMO, i really didnt need more stuff to do. i beleive i fell asleep at the wheel of my ship playing that game, about 3 or 4 hours in to it, which never happened before or since. Drugz almost pissed himself laughing when he found me snoring in my chair.
I will admit, mining is the most boring shit ever. Until someone spots you and you're under attack.

I do remember asking someone to actually do something exciting in that game once, because they always had it on screen when i went over. I left about 3 hours later, still not seeing a spec of combat.

You're just useless.
When bored, Go stalking and pick a fight with a mining ship.
In 3 months of play I was in a full on war, stealing shit from other peoples space stations, and, surprise attacking mining ships. I've also barely gotten out of a 4v1, and got away before more buddies came to help.
NOSTAlGIA

The Universe they created is just fucking amazing. This makes me want to buy it again just to explore it in a space ship.
 

Olst

TD Admin / Queerbécois
You "control" it. I mean, you're not using WASD to move. Its pick a direction, the speed and go.
When fighting you choose to orbit around your target or just pass by and forth. You can choose which weapons to use and you can fit your ship as you want with different shield, weapons, tools, etc.
 

$alvador

TD Member
Downloading demo.... afraid.

yay! Well most of the appeal is that it's basically like a sandbox strategy/simulation game. The EvE universe is huge, like really, really huge. Even in the fastest ship it takes hours to cross from one end of known space to the other, and that's not even counting uncharted solar systems. So when you're out in the deep in your spaceship, it feels a lot like commandeering a battleship in the middle of the ocean. There could be threats lying just beyond the horizon, but all you see is the empty ocean.

The game is based heavily in information so it's not possible to just turn your brain off and act on instincts because that will get you raped fast. You're forced to consult maps, and directional scanner, and intel channels constantly to keep track of where you are and whether there's anyone around to worry about. Some people consider that boring and just want to shoot something NEEOOOWW.

Personally, I find the tracking part of the hunt to be just as fun as the end result when the enemy is finally located 100% and everyone jumps into warp to land in the midst of the fray with the fleet commander yelling out targets on comms as klaxons blare and ships go ka-BOOM all around and missiles and lasers light up what used to be empty space as we make an offering of enemy wrecks to the spaceship gods so that we may narrowly escape the enemy's backup fleet and move safely back to friendly space to stow our battered ships until we fight another day BWAHAHAHA.
 

mandy

TD Member
So what you're saying is... play like you have a secret and be a shady mother fucker. Got it.
 

mandy

TD Member
yay! Well most of the appeal is that it's basically like a sandbox strategy/simulation game. The EvE universe is huge, like really, really huge. Even in the fastest ship it takes hours to cross from one end of known space to the other, and that's not even counting uncharted solar systems. So when you're out in the deep in your spaceship, it feels a lot like commandeering a battleship in the middle of the ocean. There could be threats lying just beyond the horizon, but all you see is the empty ocean.

The game is based heavily in information so it's not possible to just turn your brain off and act on instincts because that will get you raped fast. You're forced to consult maps, and directional scanner, and intel channels constantly to keep track of where you are and whether there's anyone around to worry about. Some people consider that boring and just want to shoot something NEEOOOWW.

Personally, I find the tracking part of the hunt to be just as fun as the end result when the enemy is finally located 100% and everyone jumps into warp to land in the midst of the fray with the fleet commander yelling out targets on comms as klaxons blare and ships go ka-BOOM all around and missiles and lasers light up what used to be empty space as we make an offering of enemy wrecks to the spaceship gods so that we may narrowly escape the enemy's backup fleet and move safely back to friendly space to stow our battered ships until we fight another day BWAHAHAHA.

What region do you reside in and what do you do? PvP, running mission, minning?
 
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