Economy imploding

[Brains]

On a similar topic... Canada gives billions of dollars every year to people who just moved here and don't even know a single word of English. How is that?

 

[Remy]

Brains stop trying to troll.

The only way to combat that decline is either to have more children or increase the number of immigrants coming looking for work in Canada. Alternatively they want to raise the age to get CPP to 67

 

[OG buckshot jr]

Brains is 100% right. And to remy's point about bringing in more immigrants to work, I'm glad Harper is working to make ties with India a lot closer, and is investing billions. We gonna get fucked so hard it's not even funny.

 

[Glocky]

You also have a government job with a pension... set for life. Most people our age(20-30 year olds, not you old geezer )will not have a pension.

It sounds like I was never 20-30 and never did anything like want something better than working retail or at Sympatico and apply for jobs in my twenties to land a government job at age 30 (well 30 1/2). No that can't be it. I must have been born 44 and was gifted this career.

 

[Remy]

Immigration is the backbone of Canada, everyone here is an immigrant or are descendants of it. My entire family (Grandmother and her 8 kids) came here and didn't know a single word of English and didn't have any money. They found jobs and now pay the same taxes as everyone else and contribute to the economy. Just because you're born here doesn't mean you're any less of a leach on the system. There are plenty of people I know that feed on the health care system and abuse welfare and they were born in Canada. Find a new place for your fake tears.

 

[Brains]

My ancestors made Canada @Remy
Canadian since the 1700s

 

[Remy]

You're aboriginal?

Also this is section of the forums is for serious discussions so why dont you add something constructive to the conversation.

 

[Brades]

It sounds like I was never 20-30 and never did anything like want something better than working retail or at Sympatico and apply for jobs in my twenties to land a government job at age 30 (well 30 1/2). No that can't be it. I must have been born 44 and was gifted this career.

Things are a lot different now... do you think you would have the same chance of getting a job with the government now as you did when you were first hired? government scaling back hiring as they now realize the amount of overpaid people with cushy pensions is not sustainable... and you're a white male, good luck getting in now with all the equal opportunity/diverse workplace recruiting garbage.

 

[Brades]

Immigration is the backbone of Canada, everyone here is an immigrant or are descendants of it. My entire family (Grandmother and her 8 kids) came here and didn't know a single word of English and didn't have any money. They found jobs and now pay the same taxes as everyone else and contribute to the economy. Just because you're born here doesn't mean you're any less of a leach on the system. There are plenty of people I know that feed on the health care system and abuse welfare and they were born in Canada. Find a new place for your fake tears.

I don't think BJ is talking about eurofags like you, as he is also a eurofag... think he means pakis... the majority come here an shit all over the place with no fucks given, live in their houses full of 25 people and expect Canadians to bend over and accept all of their ridiculous/barbaric religious/cultural traditions.

 

[OG buckshot jr]

It sounds like I was never 20-30 and never did anything like want something better than working retail or at Sympatico and apply for jobs in my twenties to land a government job at age 30 (well 30 1/2). No that can't be it. I must have been born 44 and was gifted this career.

I think what brades meant is our generation will no longer have that opportunity to secure a job with a great pension as they're fewer and farther between now-a-days. For us it seems as though it's all personal planning and savings, which is tough to do with this cost of living :/

Edit @Brades response above (sorry I didn't see it). Kind of. I know all races and places rape canada, but I have to admit I see "that region of the world" abuse canada the most and now I see Harper throwing billions to secure tighter relations, more immigration, more money available for them when they land etc. why? The fuck they offer, dangerous snakes and poverty? Despite what crock they try to keep selling, their education is HORRID, so they can't use the oft-spewed skilled worker bullshit excuse on me. I actually want to know why? I think it's corruption, but it hate saying it because I get called a racist right away..

 

[Noob.]

I know all races and places rape canada, but I have to admit I see "that region of the world" abuse canada the most and now I see Harper throwing billions to secure tighter relations, more immigration, more money available for them when they land etc. why?

Because if we're nice and friendly to them they will be our friends and won't try to blow us up. Or some other politically correct garbage excuse.

 

[OG buckshot jr]

I laughed with your comment, however that region that I'm referring to in not hostile to us, they only openly harbour, support and defend terrorists.

 

[Glocky]

Things are a lot different now... do you think you would have the same chance of getting a job with the government now as you did when you were first hired? government scaling back hiring as they now realize the amount of overpaid people with cushy pensions is not sustainable... and you're a white male, good luck getting in now with all the equal opportunity/diverse workplace recruiting garbage.

There was an external posting this week for the exact job I got in on. I shared it around and imagine that a few people that I know, who are white and even white males, will succeed. Especially since it is optional to answer sex / ethnicity.

I'd actually do OK because I have more skills now that I did then, and I am close to bilingual.

So tell me Braids, since you know everything, how much do I make? What do I do? What is a comparable salary for that in the private sector? In a top 500 company? In a public or not for profit company? How much do I contribute to my own pension? How does my employer?

 

[Remy]

I don't think BJ is talking about eurofags like you, as he is also a eurofag... think he means pakis... the majority come here an shit all over the place with no fucks given, live in their houses full of 25 people and expect Canadians to bend over and accept all of their ridiculous/barbaric religious/cultural traditions.

Cant tell if youre serious and really think I'm a eurofag.

"Some" come here and never contribute to the country but I have worked with plenty of these so called "pakis" even ones that are FOBs and they work just as hard as anyone else.

 

[Brades]

There was an external posting this week for the exact job I got in on. I shared it around and imagine that a few people that I know, who are white and even white males, will succeed. Especially since it is optional to answer sex / ethnicity.

I'd actually do OK because I have more skills now that I did then, and I am close to bilingual.

So tell me Braids, since you know everything, how much do I make? What do I do? What is a comparable salary for that in the private sector? In a top 500 company? In a public or not for profit company? How much do I contribute to my own pension? How does my employer?

You think not filling out the ethnicity question will fool them? They see FOB name, resume goes to the top of the pile. I don't know what you do, something with accounting? It doesn't matter, I'm talking about the majority of Federal and Provincial workers who are paid much higher and have much better pensions compared to their private sector equivalent. This is fact, not sure why you are getting so defensive.

 

[Brades]

Cant tell if youre serious and really think I'm a eurofag.

"Some" come here and never contribute to the country but I have worked with plenty of these so called "pakis" even ones that are FOBs and they work just as hard as anyone else.

Didn't even notice it was you, fob remy... thought I was replying to Gensis LOL... you both have similar faggy avatars.

and I didn't say pakis don't work hard... just they shit all over Canada.

 

[Glocky]

You think not filling out the ethnicity question will fool them? They see FOB name, resume goes to the top of the pile. I don't know what you do, something with accounting? It doesn't matter, I'm talking about the majority of Federal and Provincial workers who are paid much higher and have much better pensions compared to their private sector equivalent. This is fact, not sure why you are getting so defensive.

Resume? Lol So out of date. That's all I need to know about the accuracy of the rest.
If you can't see the difference in the tone and specificity between your two posts, and understand why there's a reaction, then there's no point even talking. The problem is that at some of the lower levels, I would agree but at the higher levels where things get specialized, there aren't many if any private sector equivalents. It doesn't help that CFIB does wage studies and don't know the difference between median and average. Lower wages means more profit though. At least in the private sector you won't have a government pass legislation to void signed contracts (before Supreme Court of Canada to be overturned as it over steps authority).

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[swan]

So been reading through. Seems everyone is keen to blame a policy or group of people or immigration or any other thing. What I find is being ignored is that getting a job comes down to two factors (on a practical level): 1 - who you know. Tried and true. People hire friends and family over others whenever possible.
2 - salesmanship. Everyone is a salesperson for themselves. Some people suck at it, some are spectacular. If you aren't spectacular, you didn't get the job.

Yes, there's larger issues at play, but there always are/will be. These two things are always true.

 

[MetalLobster]

So been reading through. Seems everyone is keen to blame a policy or group of people or immigration or any other thing. What I find is being ignored is that getting a job comes down to two factors (on a practical level): 1 - who you know. Tried and true. People hire friends and family over others whenever possible.
2 - salesmanship. Everyone is a salesperson for themselves. Some people suck at it, some are spectacular. If you aren't spectacular, you didn't get the job.

Yes, there's larger issues at play, but there always are/will be. These two things are always true.

All this was what you were taught throughout school, from public to post-sec, and it's the same old script. What they forget to tell you is that you can do everything right and still lose to someone who is willing to do your job for less than what you're expecting.

 

[OG buckshot jr]

Ding ding ding. Both posts above. So, let me pose a real-world, from experience question: if Mr. Patel is hiring, and I'm up against another Patel who will no doubt do the job for less money (albeit with zero skill, education and knowledge; never mind the severe lack of soft skills and language), who's getting hired?

Has happened to me, and has happened to you all without even knowing it.