DARKLY Trade Map - Mappers Needed!

[Fourty7]

Thanks again, will have a new vid for you guys tomorrow. Almost 100% done the blue spawn point, perfecting the "secret item hunt" (12 items hidden around the map to be found and claimed by either team), then copying, mirroring, and replacing textures for red spawn (Will take like 20 mins to fix up the copy). Once I have both spawns (And maybe the DM area there) Ill post a new vid to show what it all looks like.

After the vid tomorrow, it'll take a day or two to make the small subsections of the map.. Then I'll PM a 'beta' for admins to test, more so to judge and if necessary have me change something, or add something I missed.

And the spy crab thing, this look okay? And should it be like in somewhere both teams can get to / completely access? If so should I put like "No shooting" signs out front of it or whatnot?

P.S. No worries for doing this, I enjoy doing maps for so many reasons, but the main would be the metaphor of your signature Budget.. So true and so hard to accept, if only it wasn't.

New vid. 99% done spawn area, just testing the "Occupied" signs, no team filter on them for vid to make sure they showed in correct colors. The secret items are currently separated for when I copy to red side and have to rename 120 entity properties, lol. Will post again either later tonight or tomorrow. Fraps cut vid at 60fps, runs between 250-300fps without fraps on, after completing spawn area an enclosing vis-areas assumed 200fps average, I'll never accept anything below 150 in most detailed areas lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjcSC9si5Fo&hd=1

 

[Low Budget]

Looking hawwwwwwt ! fap fap fap fap fap

Needs to be lighter tho :)

 

[Fourty7]

Almost done, was working on making sure everything would work smooth the last few days. At first I had used 37% of the geometry (faces) available in HL2 engine maps, having only built the blue spawn area. So I cut down the detail majorly, still looks pretty much the same.. But regrettably instead of 12 mini areas, I'm only going to put 6.

A few more days we'll be good.

---EDIT---

Okay, spawn is 100% done. I may add more to the fighting area, depends how much space I have left in the map after making the mini areas. Only bug in video is the computers in red spawn (Have to rotate them 180 degrees). The lighting is not as dark as it appears on video, caused by fraps. Fraps records at 1.5 million kbps, which was 16.3 gigs for 5 mins 1 second.. Converting it down to 690 megs for 5 minutes (@16k kbps) causes the darkness, due to compression mixing closest colors (which in this video would be the darker areas).

** Executing...
** Command: "c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\akira_canada_811@hotmail.com\sourcesdk\bin\orangebox\bin\vbsp.exe"
** Parameters: -game "c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\akira_canada_811@hotmail.com\team fortress 2\tf" "F:\Editing\trade_darkly (tf2 trade map)\trade_darkly_v1.vmf"


Valve Software - vbsp.exe (Apr 26 2012)
8 threads
materialPath: c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\akira_canada_811@hotmail.com\team fortress 2\tf\materials
Loading F:\Editing\trade_darkly (tf2 trade map)\trade_darkly_v1.vmf
ConVarRef mat_reduceparticles doesn't point to an existing ConVar
fixing up env_cubemap materials on brush sides...
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FixTjuncs...
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WriteBSP...
done (1)
writing F:\Editing\trade_darkly (tf2 trade map)\trade_darkly_v1.prt...Building visibility clusters...
done (0)
*** Error: Skybox vtf files for skybox/sky_night_01 weren't compiled with the same size texture and/or same flags!
Can't load skybox file skybox/sky_night_01 to build the default cubemap!
*** Error: Skybox vtf files for skybox/sky_night_01 weren't compiled with the same size texture and/or same flags!
Can't load skybox file skybox/sky_night_01 to build the default cubemap!
Finding displacement neighbors...
Finding lightmap sample positions...
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Building Physics collision data...
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Compacting texture/material tables...
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Writing F:\Editing\trade_darkly (tf2 trade map)\trade_darkly_v1.bsp
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** Executing...
** Command: "c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\akira_canada_811@hotmail.com\sourcesdk\bin\orangebox\bin\vvis.exe"
** Parameters: -game "c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\akira_canada_811@hotmail.com\team fortress 2\tf" "F:\Editing\trade_darkly (tf2 trade map)\trade_darkly_v1"


Valve Software - vvis.exe (Apr 26 2012)
8 threads
reading f:\editing\trade_darkly (tf2 trade map)\trade_darkly_v1.bsp
reading f:\editing\trade_darkly (tf2 trade map)\trade_darkly_v1.prt
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BasePortalVis:       0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
PortalFlow:          0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (1)
Optimized: 174 visible clusters (0.53%)
Total clusters visible: 33132
Average clusters visible: 79
Building PAS...
Average clusters audible: 253
visdatasize:35973  compressed from 46592
writing f:\editing\trade_darkly (tf2 trade map)\trade_darkly_v1.bsp
1 second elapsed


** Executing...
** Command: "c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\akira_canada_811@hotmail.com\sourcesdk\bin\orangebox\bin\vrad.exe"
** Parameters:  -game "c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\akira_canada_811@hotmail.com\team fortress 2\tf" "F:\Editing\trade_darkly (tf2 trade map)\trade_darkly_v1"


Valve Software - vrad.exe SSE (Apr 26 2012)


      Valve Radiosity Simulator     
8 threads
[Reading texlights from 'lights.rad']
[34 texlights parsed from 'lights.rad']


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** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: "F:\Editing\trade_darkly (tf2 trade map)\trade_darkly_v1.bsp" "c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\akira_canada_811@hotmail.com\team fortress 2\tf\maps\trade_darkly_v1.bsp"]

That's the compile log after completing spawn + credits. This leaves me with aproximately 50% of the geometry (32,000 faces) to build the mini areas, which should be fine. Here are the most questionable factors.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWRrIRxcclc&hd=1

 

[kapil.jayarman]

this is coming along real well.. my suggestion would be a separate heavy boxing ring where only sandwiches and gloves are allowed. and perhaps a plugin to hi 5 the other team and a plugin to see the other team members' names, and perhaps a donator / admin room really high up and jet-packs for admin/ donators to get up there.

 

[Brades]

Just noticed the video, looks awesome!

 

[zackychuu]

That looks pretty nice.
It was funny watching you try to jump into the credits area at the end though

Can't wait to explore when it's done!

 

[Fourty7]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVH_SlO_Leg&hd=1

Sorry, I didn't die, I've just been being eaten by zombies ( www.dayzmod.com ) lol. Most addictive mod ever.

Adventure will be the best to explore, I wish I could have made it bigger but I'm already gonna be pushing it pretty bad.

@kapil.jayarman, I know how to do jet packs with CSS but that's because you can attach things to weapons which you pick up in CSS, as far as I know there's no items you pick up to keep in tf2? maybe I'm wrong, explain if I am please. The crab battle area could essentially be used for any type of deul, if you guys want a boxing ring I'll put one in but I figured there's been one in the middle of your trade maps for so long you might want to switch it up. An admin room is definately doable, although, possibly unnecessary in this map? Especially since its seperated by areas..

Ill be in touch.

 

[Brades]

Wow that map looks insane. You have skills I don't think we need a separate area for admins though and boxing is still pretty popular so maybe some of the regular trade guys will let you know if a boxing ring is a good idea.

Awesome work!

 

[Shotgun Jesus]

Amazing shit, man. You are now the official 47 of DARKLY.

 

[Brades]

Rest in piss old 47. :lol:

 

[Cock]

dude, I'm installing TF2 just to play this map.

Looks wicked man nice work

 

[Olst]

I'm really not a fan of Trade but this map looks amazing! You have a really big talent and it shows. The mini games will be awesome. For the spy-crab duel, is it possible to restrict weapons in that area?

I like your "Darkly servers" rotating sign. Does it really shot the current status of the Darkly Servers?

And props for your credit room, for once that it accessible.

 

[Starman4xz]

When this map goes public on the Darkly servers, I think LB will need more servers...
Ive never seen such a map in TF2 that is this creative and just plain awesome!

 

[Low Budget]

FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP

This...looks...godly!

Only suggestion I have before the final release. You know where it says the network, Toronto, Chicago, London?
Change it to USA, Canada, England, Germany

FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP...
Seriously tho, AMAZING work. :)

 

[Low Budget]

P.S Rest in PISS old 47!

 

[Fourty7]

Lol WOOT! tons of positive feedback instantly. That's always good motivation to do something quicker .

I'll chuck a boxing ring in if possible but the compile log is already SUPER intensive. Eg;

physics [variable] 4013657/4194304 (95.7%) VERY FULL!
brushes 4309/8192 51708/98304 (52.6%)
brushsides 38844/65536 310752/524288 (59.3%)

I'll try and fit the ring in there, the brush sides is not bad. I had it up to 78% before and cut it down by removing a ton of detail around the main (Spawn) area. The physics seems to be mostly effected by "Displacements" (smooth terrain), and I don't need to use anymore so I shouuuuuuuuuuld be good. Lol.

Also, I'd still like to do another one (Or 3?) map(s) for you guys after this. Mainly, a map where you are in the CN Tower (With some sat immage for the ground lmfao), but I'd like to make it super realistic. Last time I was there was almost ten years ago so the inside will be pretty made up depending on how good of pics I can find, but I'd like to have 4 glass elevators (2 for each team, that alternate up/down together so theres always one to take.), glass floor, outer viewing perimiter, and rotating restaraunt. Just an idea, we'll see where we can take it?

Yell at me on steam or on here if you got any suggestions, ideas, or just want to say whatsup.

P.S. Did 47 leave? I had no intention on making him loose his status, we actually talked a bunch before? :P

 

[47]

hhahahahahha fuuuuuu

 

[Brades]

What's the filesize on this map? :pray:

 

[Steve]

What's the filesize on this map? :pray:

hopefully not too big or our India based FDL server won't be able to handle the load.


also: inb4 a new map kills our trade traffic.

 

[Fourty7]

This is an aproximation of current file size. Pay attention to math after picture and explination.

The map file is 27.3 Megabytes.
The sky texture is 4 Megabytes.
The textures I made are 17.5 Megabytes.

27.3 + 4 + 17.5 = 48.8

After including all textures into the bsp, it would currently be 48.8 Mb.
The map will (Approximately) be about 30-35 when completed, and I don't think I will require more textures. Also some of the textures in the folder weren't used so they wont be included (Lets estimate it at 3-5 megs less than expected.)

The BSP is just the part that sits on your hard drive. All good servers, including yours, use a "Fast download" system. This hosts the file on a FTP Domain, and is compressed (.bz2). When you "B-Zip" a map, it is about 1/3 the file size. So download size will be between 17-22 Mb after the map is complete. Also if necessary I can host a download from my domain?

If extremely necessary I can cut down resolution of textures (Make them uglier) and easily save up to 7 Mb in the bsp (2 Mb .bz2), but I'd suggest keeping them high quality.

Hope this helps.