Video card problem.

rocket hamster

Blackpulse Member
Asked on the blackpulse forums a while ago. Now with more people, might get better help.
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This is what happens with any Valve game I play. I can play C&C games without problems, but since I only have Valve games on steam, I can't test any other games.
This is a description of my Graphics processor. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_GMA#Specifications(GMA 3100)
Note: I could run cs:s perfectly fine without any glitches or anything.
 

OG buckshot jr

TD Admin
The only two things that I know, for sure, that could cause this are overheating graphics processor and corrupted VRAM. VRAM is like the RAM of the graphics card. A graphics card can still run, and work, with a little corruption. Those glitches and random artifacts, as pictured in your screen shot, are literally miscalculations (due to corrupt VRAM) by your graphics processing unit.

Again, I can't be 100% sure without you running some sort of graphics calculation tester (like a stress test, but with data), but I have seen this before.

Since it's an integrated Intel GMA3100, it doesn't draw a lot of power and thus is not very powerful in itself, I don't feel it's likely due to heat. However, open up your laptop (or desktop, I'm not sure what you have), and give it a good cleaning with compressed air/vaccuum.

I hope this helps mate.
 

rocket hamster

Blackpulse Member
However, open up your laptop (or desktop, I'm not sure what you have), and give it a good cleaning with compressed air/vaccuum.
Already did this, laptop runs it fine. If it doesn't run a lot of power, could this be from playing cs:s on it too much? And would getting a actual graphics card solve the problem?
 

OG buckshot jr

TD Admin
If it is in fact corrupt VRAM, it could be due to a variety of things, of which we can only speculate. Some could say heat, some could say dodgy construction/materials, who knows. However, if you've got a desktop (do you? you haven't clarified that yet), then try adding a video card - any video card will do, and see if the problem goes away. If it does, my speculation about your issue is correct. Borrow an old card from a friend or something and give 'er a go.
 

$alvador

TD Member
integrated graphics processors don't have dedicated RAM, they have to access system RAM via NB/MCH at a huge bandwidth penalty versus a GPU with dedicated RAM like you'd get on a card. The only thing I can think of that may solve the problem, short of getting a legit gfx card, would be to OC the MCH and increase memory throughput. I say "may" because I have this funny feeling that Hamster is probably running a 64-bit OS off just 4GB of RAM
 

$alvador

TD Member
Pre-built computers usually mean very limited BIOS features which could mean you're SOL in the overclocking department. IGP is quickly becoming obsolete, man. If you're planning on playing CS:GO or any other new games you're definitely going to need to upgrade to a legit setup sometime soon.
 

OG buckshot jr

TD Admin
Salvador, we can't assume he needs to overclock, that may actually make his issue worse. And yes, integrated graphics processors still DO have a very minute amount of dedicated VRAM (32MB-128MB) in addition to accessing the RAM the system has reserved to share with the OS.
 

halfbakedchef

TD Admin
integrated graphics processors don't have dedicated RAM, they have to access system RAM via NB/MCH at a huge bandwidth penalty versus a GPU with dedicated RAM like you'd get on a card. The only thing I can think of that may solve the problem, short of getting a legit gfx card, would be to OC the MCH and increase memory throughput. I say "may" because I have this funny feeling that Hamster is probably running a 64-bit OS off just 4GB of RAM

i run 64-bit with 4gbs of ram with no issues
but i have a gfx card aswell
 

rocket hamster

Blackpulse Member
Can anyone recommend a decent graphics card that can run on a 300w power supply? Also, if I got that wrong, I took the wattage from the one labeled "DC output"

EDIT: Just found out power supplies are $50, so can anyone tell me how good a ATI Radeon™ HD 4600 runs?
 

clark

TD Member
If you are upgrading video cards: you will need to absolutly upgrade your power supply as rarely any (if any) cards today will run in addition to your system at under 300W. For the HD4600, i myself would get at least a 550, or even 600, as that will leave you room in the future to expand your system to do eith a crossfire, or just add or upgrade components. Also, get the size measurements on the card, and make sure that it will fit in your case, a prebuilt computer... You may have to upgrade your case as well because the card may be to long.
 

halfbakedchef

TD Admin

$alvador

TD Member
That PSU isn't even 80 Plus certified, which every reliable PSU should be. Anyway, if your computer came without a graphics card it really begs the question of what kind of haggard motherboard HP threw into it. The biggest problem with pre-built fucking computers is that they charge you as much for them as if though they had top-of-the-line components inside, but they instead load it full of absolute garbage RAM and motherboard. These days, you just don't get your money's worth out of components without a motherboard that gives you lots of features in the BIOS.
 
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