Spreadsheet Use.

Gatherix

Gatherix

Death by Darkly
ⓂustachedⒶwesomeness said:
People keep telling me not to use the spreadsheet but I've been using it since i started playing TF2 a few years back. Should I listen to them?
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There's been a lot of debate over that, so I'm not going to get into any of the details or the real premises behind my attempted-unbiased argument here. Send me a message if you want details.

Spreadsheet was for awhile the only price guide available, and it worked well. Not too long ago there was a scandal regarding Spreadsheet, where the admin in control of it (and its prices) was accused of raising the prices of certain items to gain profit for himself. The conclusion of the accusation was unclear - while it had strong theories there was in fact no solid evidence - but since then the majority of people do not trust Spreadsheet, reasonably so. Since then backpack.tf has emerged, where prices are based upon community votes. While this method does seem immensely superior to that of Spreadsheet's, there are in fact numerous problems that this system causes. That said, most people aren't aware of these problems and since the majority of people use backpack.tf there isn't much you can do about it. The pricecheck feature of our servers uses backpack.tf's prices.

Neither price guide's prices are exact, and I would argue they're both valid guides. Use either's price for any given item as an estimate of that item's value.

Also, please refrain from using that bold font stuff. It's seizure-inducing and I just might have to stab you.
 
ⓂustachedⒶwesomeness

ⓂustachedⒶwesomeness

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Gatherix said:
There's been a lot of debate over that, so I'm not going to get into any of the details or the real premises behind my attempted-unbiased argument here. Send me a message if you want details.

Spreadsheet was for awhile the only price guide available, and it worked well. Not too long ago there was a scandal regarding Spreadsheet, where the admin in control of it (and its prices) was accused of raising the prices of certain items to gain profit for himself. The conclusion of the accusation was unclear - while it had strong theories there was in fact no solid evidence - but since then the majority of people do not trust Spreadsheet, reasonably so. Since then backpack.tf has emerged, where prices are based upon community votes. While this method does seem immensely superior to that of Spreadsheet's, there are in fact numerous problems that this system causes. That said, most people aren't aware of these problems and since the majority of people use backpack.tf there isn't much you can do about it. The pricecheck feature of our servers uses backpack.tf's prices.

Neither price guide's prices are exact, and I would argue they're both valid guides. Use either's price for any given item as an estimate of that item's value.

Also, please refrain from using that bold font stuff. It's seizure-inducing and I just might have to stab you.
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Oh well thats good to know.
 
Baorite

Baorite

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Gatherix said:
There's been a lot of debate over that, so I'm not going to get into any of the details or the real premises behind my attempted-unbiased argument here. Send me a message if you want details.

Spreadsheet was for awhile the only price guide available, and it worked well. Not too long ago there was a scandal regarding Spreadsheet, where the admin in control of it (and its prices) was accused of raising the prices of certain items to gain profit for himself. The conclusion of the accusation was unclear - while it had strong theories there was in fact no solid evidence - but since then the majority of people do not trust Spreadsheet, reasonably so. Since then backpack.tf has emerged, where prices are based upon community votes. While this method does seem immensely superior to that of Spreadsheet's, there are in fact numerous problems that this system causes. That said, most people aren't aware of these problems and since the majority of people use backpack.tf there isn't much you can do about it. The pricecheck feature of our servers uses backpack.tf's prices.

Neither price guide's prices are exact, and I would argue they're both valid guides. Use either's price for any given item as an estimate of that item's value.

Also, please refrain from using that bold font stuff. It's seizure-inducing and I just might have to stab you.
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Yeah, the main argument for backpack.tf is that people vote.
Speaking of - The S.Equalizer's current vote is .05-.11, and the current price is 1 scrap. Just saying.
 
ⓂustachedⒶwesomeness

ⓂustachedⒶwesomeness

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The problem I have with having so many price sites avaliable is that there is always confusion about which price is right. Why cant steam just run the pricecheck; have they tried but failed?
 
jakksilves

jakksilves

LiR
ⓂustachedⒶwesomeness said:
The problem I have with having so many price sites avaliable is that there is always confusion about which price is right. Why cant steam just run the pricecheck; have they tried but failed?
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They wouldn't make money off of it. The point of these guides is to advise you on how much you should trade what.

Use multiple or one, it doesn't matter, just don't quote that your prices are from there or you'll be subject to hostility and branded an idiot.
 
Baorite

Baorite

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ⓂustachedⒶwesomeness said:
The problem I have with having so many price sites avaliable is that there is always confusion about which price is right. Why cant steam just run the pricecheck; have they tried but failed?
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I would just use backpack.tf considering that is what most traders on places like tf2tp use. There are others of course, but it's just most common.
 
Wrath

Wrath

DARKLY Middleman
I use SEVERAL guides and sheets...never rely on one too much, it's going to ruin you.

Here's some public ones you guys can view.
http://tf2aid.tk/
http://tf2trends.com/

(I have more but I forget where I left my bookmarks...don't remember them all by heart, I have Analytics for that! Muhaha!)
 
Baorite

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As well as Backpack.tf, I also occasionally check tf2outpost for whatever item I'm selling or buying to see what price is still unsold.
 
Wrath

Wrath

DARKLY Middleman
Baorite said:
As well as Backpack.tf, I also occasionally check tf2outpost for whatever item I'm selling or buying to see what price is still unsold.
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Outpost prices are the worst to get...really, kill yourself if that's your source.
 
Baorite

Baorite

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Wrath said:
Outpost prices are the worst to get...really, kill yourself if that's your source.
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No I mean I look at the outpost price and some ref/rec/scrap depending on the price, or I subtract. Like Summer Shades are supposed to be 6 keys wrapped, I bought mine for 7 because people weren't selling for 6 keys, but there were trades for 8/9 that wouldn't get accepted.
 
Wrath

Wrath

DARKLY Middleman
Baorite said:
No I mean I look at the outpost price and some ref/rec/scrap depending on the price, or I subtract. Like Summer Shades are supposed to be 6 keys wrapped, I bought mine for 7 because people weren't selling for 6 keys, but there were trades for 8/9 that wouldn't get accepted.
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Still a terrible method, I've seen a hat that sells for a Key be posted around...then there are one or three traders who want 2 Refined for it.
 
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