jamesearljones
TD Member
GOLTV is fucking garbage, I'm not paying for that shit. You fucking assholes don't even have this epic Barcelona/Real Madrid game on HD TV, or a regular damn channel. What the fuck!!
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OG buckshot jr
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Never buy into any sports channels from North America. The only football you'll find is garbage Italian league, Brazilian league, or Australian league. And really, who the f*** watches that?
The only station to broadcast any EPL (or Champions League etc.) is Rogers Sports World. However, do note you'll also be getting a fuck-tonne of cricket, tennis, rugby and other sports you may not be interested in.
From experience: GolTV and all TSN/Sportsnet-affiliates are complete garbage, and a waste of broadcasting satellites.
EDIT: By the way, even though Sportsnet is complete and utter garbage, they still will broadcast (most of the time, anyway, unless garbage baseball is on) the big matches for Champions League.
The only station to broadcast any EPL (or Champions League etc.) is Rogers Sports World. However, do note you'll also be getting a fuck-tonne of cricket, tennis, rugby and other sports you may not be interested in.
From experience: GolTV and all TSN/Sportsnet-affiliates are complete garbage, and a waste of broadcasting satellites.
EDIT: By the way, even though Sportsnet is complete and utter garbage, they still will broadcast (most of the time, anyway, unless garbage baseball is on) the big matches for Champions League.
shoottomaim
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SportsNet?
jamesearljones
TD Member
Sportsnet had a repeat of some EPL game and then Yankees/Red Sox... which actually turned out to be a fucking epic baseball game. Goltv had the rights
Ghett0
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It's not ROGERS, it's actually BELL that you should be pissed at. GOLTV is part of the CTV conglomerate that Bell Bought. Ergo, GOLTV is owned by Bell. Since GOLTV was already on ROGERS when BELL bought GOL TV, they couldn't rescind the rights as it would be contrary to competition laws.
They did, however, refuse to offer GOL TV HD to Rogers and save it exclusively for their customers.... (Apparently in your region, because I got the Barca / Real match in mine) they ONLY showed that game on GOL TV HD.
I've worked closely with the people at GOL TV, and I assure you, there is not a bad person in that entire organization. The quality of what they produce with what little they have is unreal, and with Phil Schoen and Ray Hudson, they have two of the best football journalists our there. Phil Schoen's breadth of football knowledge is vast (he doesn't specialize in one league, he follows ALL the leagues), and who is more prolific and verbose in calling a game then Ray Hudson? The man is almost as entertaining as the game itself.
We may SEEM to get the shit end of the stick up here, but there are reasons for that. We get GOL TV Canada, which is a tiny portion of their greater share.
The lion's share of GOL TV's resources goes into their Spanish Language station, which we don't get here in Canada, and which is WHY they focus on Brazil, Mexico, CONCACAF, Argentinean and La Liga football. If 65% of your money comes from that market, that's where you dedicate the resources; to show them what they want to see.
GOL TV is the only station that gets Bundesliga rights at this point in time, though their rights expire either at the end of this season or the next. I wouldn't be surprised if the Score bid on Bundesliga rights, but they have a 3 year deal for Serie A broadcasting rights (soon to be 2) and I don't think they would bother double booking. They don't have the money and only Rogers and TSN buy sports they don't bother to show.
If you did the research and realized how small the budget is for places like GOL TV (Canada especially), you'd realize why these things happen. The only sports broadcasters that have any REAL money are Rogers and TSN, which is why they buy the rights to EVERYTHING, and usually offer piss poor coverage of what they have. TSN has a pretty fat stack of cash, but they dedicate most of that to Hockey.
When the rights come around, what usually happens is everything worth having gets bid to death by Rogers and TSN. (EPL rights, hockey rights, the Olympics, Curling. Anything worth anything to the Canadian market.) Once they're done, the Score gets stuck with the leftovers. GOL TV takes the rights to the other stuff because it's what they can afford. The rights to La Liga eat up most of their budget, but without La Liga, none of their Spanish subscribers would stick around. They are the only REAL LOYAL and DIEHARD footy fans in the States they can bank on to make room for them in their budget. No La Liga, no subscribers, no budget, no GOL TV. It's that simple.
To trim their budget, they tried broadcasting "Day olds" like Serie A or Bundesliga games aired 2 hours after they happened, hoping people wouldn't know the difference. Since the advent of the internet streaming culture and social media enabled sharing these sites and propagating them at lightning speed, they've since realized they MUST show live content, but they can't really afford to show a lot of really GOOD live content, so they show what they can.
They buy their big matches. They grab big teams when and where they can. They do, however, have to pay a premium for the HD feeds, and if they blacked out El Classico it wasn't by choice.
In the end, I don't know what you're flipping out about, though, because I have GOL TV on Rogers, and I got EL CLASSICO IE Barca / Real. I didn't get it in HD, but again, that's an unfortunate product of the Blue vs Red war, and good luck getting them to settle their differences. Bell is actually in court now fighting to make it WORSE so they can charge each other out the ass for one anothers channels, and thereby, make US all pay a retarded premium to get Sportsnet on Bell TV service or CTV and GOLTV and whatever else Bell owns on Rogers. (The Charges will take place at a corporate level, but all increases in price are ultimate passed on to the customer, IE us.)
In the end, the person who gets fucked is the customer. I can tell you from experience that we, the customer, are often the knot that gets fucked in the tug of war between these two, and they fuckin HATE one another and love to compete, tooth and nail, over EVERYTHING.
Did you want to discuss the intricates details of what happens behind the scenes in Canadian Sports Broadcasting, or were you just making conversation and blowing off steam? (For you haters who want me to cite my sources, I know people who have worked at nearly every level of the TV broadcasting world in Canada, including the former head honcho at The Score. That's for all you haters in the community who love to tell me I talk out my ass, an opinion which comes directly out of your own, but that's another story.)
The short version?
GOL TV DID broadcast El Classico.
They DID NOT broadcast it in HD on Rogers because Bell has not allowed ROGERS to offer GOL TV HD on their Cable service.
At the end of the day, if you want to get the highest quality feeds in English, you're going to have to pay for them. Whether it's an online service, a TV station, whatever you like, it's there for the taking. Either you accept the unreliability and the piss poor quality of a stream for free, or you pay the premium to watch it guaranteed. It really boils down to how much you want it, I suppose.
I love my footy. I don't mind paying an extra couple bucks for GOL TV. It's the price of a few Coffees. I'm cheap, but I'm not THAT cheap.
Questions? Comments? Concerns?
They did, however, refuse to offer GOL TV HD to Rogers and save it exclusively for their customers.... (Apparently in your region, because I got the Barca / Real match in mine) they ONLY showed that game on GOL TV HD.
I've worked closely with the people at GOL TV, and I assure you, there is not a bad person in that entire organization. The quality of what they produce with what little they have is unreal, and with Phil Schoen and Ray Hudson, they have two of the best football journalists our there. Phil Schoen's breadth of football knowledge is vast (he doesn't specialize in one league, he follows ALL the leagues), and who is more prolific and verbose in calling a game then Ray Hudson? The man is almost as entertaining as the game itself.
We may SEEM to get the shit end of the stick up here, but there are reasons for that. We get GOL TV Canada, which is a tiny portion of their greater share.
The lion's share of GOL TV's resources goes into their Spanish Language station, which we don't get here in Canada, and which is WHY they focus on Brazil, Mexico, CONCACAF, Argentinean and La Liga football. If 65% of your money comes from that market, that's where you dedicate the resources; to show them what they want to see.
GOL TV is the only station that gets Bundesliga rights at this point in time, though their rights expire either at the end of this season or the next. I wouldn't be surprised if the Score bid on Bundesliga rights, but they have a 3 year deal for Serie A broadcasting rights (soon to be 2) and I don't think they would bother double booking. They don't have the money and only Rogers and TSN buy sports they don't bother to show.
If you did the research and realized how small the budget is for places like GOL TV (Canada especially), you'd realize why these things happen. The only sports broadcasters that have any REAL money are Rogers and TSN, which is why they buy the rights to EVERYTHING, and usually offer piss poor coverage of what they have. TSN has a pretty fat stack of cash, but they dedicate most of that to Hockey.
When the rights come around, what usually happens is everything worth having gets bid to death by Rogers and TSN. (EPL rights, hockey rights, the Olympics, Curling. Anything worth anything to the Canadian market.) Once they're done, the Score gets stuck with the leftovers. GOL TV takes the rights to the other stuff because it's what they can afford. The rights to La Liga eat up most of their budget, but without La Liga, none of their Spanish subscribers would stick around. They are the only REAL LOYAL and DIEHARD footy fans in the States they can bank on to make room for them in their budget. No La Liga, no subscribers, no budget, no GOL TV. It's that simple.
To trim their budget, they tried broadcasting "Day olds" like Serie A or Bundesliga games aired 2 hours after they happened, hoping people wouldn't know the difference. Since the advent of the internet streaming culture and social media enabled sharing these sites and propagating them at lightning speed, they've since realized they MUST show live content, but they can't really afford to show a lot of really GOOD live content, so they show what they can.
They buy their big matches. They grab big teams when and where they can. They do, however, have to pay a premium for the HD feeds, and if they blacked out El Classico it wasn't by choice.
In the end, I don't know what you're flipping out about, though, because I have GOL TV on Rogers, and I got EL CLASSICO IE Barca / Real. I didn't get it in HD, but again, that's an unfortunate product of the Blue vs Red war, and good luck getting them to settle their differences. Bell is actually in court now fighting to make it WORSE so they can charge each other out the ass for one anothers channels, and thereby, make US all pay a retarded premium to get Sportsnet on Bell TV service or CTV and GOLTV and whatever else Bell owns on Rogers. (The Charges will take place at a corporate level, but all increases in price are ultimate passed on to the customer, IE us.)
In the end, the person who gets fucked is the customer. I can tell you from experience that we, the customer, are often the knot that gets fucked in the tug of war between these two, and they fuckin HATE one another and love to compete, tooth and nail, over EVERYTHING.
Did you want to discuss the intricates details of what happens behind the scenes in Canadian Sports Broadcasting, or were you just making conversation and blowing off steam? (For you haters who want me to cite my sources, I know people who have worked at nearly every level of the TV broadcasting world in Canada, including the former head honcho at The Score. That's for all you haters in the community who love to tell me I talk out my ass, an opinion which comes directly out of your own, but that's another story.)
The short version?
GOL TV DID broadcast El Classico.
They DID NOT broadcast it in HD on Rogers because Bell has not allowed ROGERS to offer GOL TV HD on their Cable service.
At the end of the day, if you want to get the highest quality feeds in English, you're going to have to pay for them. Whether it's an online service, a TV station, whatever you like, it's there for the taking. Either you accept the unreliability and the piss poor quality of a stream for free, or you pay the premium to watch it guaranteed. It really boils down to how much you want it, I suppose.
I love my footy. I don't mind paying an extra couple bucks for GOL TV. It's the price of a few Coffees. I'm cheap, but I'm not THAT cheap.
Questions? Comments? Concerns?