[poll] Teams
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Spinny
TD Admin / Giant Faggot
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Let auto team balance do the job lol
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auto balance is screwed to hell lol.... I've seen so it so many times in the last few weeks where it just makes the teams even more unfair, or it makes more players on one team than the other.... auto balance can not be trusted :P there must be a better version of it or something!
Let auto team balance do the job lol
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auto balance is screwed to hell lol.... I've seen so it so many times in the last few weeks where it just makes the teams even more unfair, or it makes more players on one team than the other.... auto balance can not be trusted :P there must be a better version of it or something!
I always auto-assign. so meh
.44 caliber
TD Admin
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Like Spinny, I always go auto-assign too, but I voted No simply because a lot of randoms might not like the auto-assign and may leave because of it.
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I voted yes, but you do make a good point.
Believe or not, a lot of people aren't smart enough and just choose to stack.
Like Spinny, I always go auto-assign too, but I voted No simply because a lot of randoms might not like the auto-assign and may leave because of it.
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I voted yes, but you do make a good point.
Believe or not, a lot of people aren't smart enough and just choose to stack.
td|35mm
TD Admin
If I like a side better then the other one doesn't mean you stack a team. I join ct and don't complain about it if I have to ...
I don't like random stuff when you have the option to choose.
I don't see the point of this vote to be honest. You have the option to auto ... so do it if you want, don't force everyone just because you like it.
I don't like random stuff when you have the option to choose.
I don't see the point of this vote to be honest. You have the option to auto ... so do it if you want, don't force everyone just because you like it.
the Point of this vote is to see whether or not there is an alternative to ETB, ATB...because there have been a couple of complaints about it.... its not because i like it, its so that the teams are balanced...because there cud be a lot more ppl like you 35 who prefer the T side who are skilled. which inevitably leads to a stack...
td|35mm
TD Admin
I understand why you ask this but ...
Auto assigning for sure is NOT an alternative.
You will lose players if you enforce it.
And even if by any chance it will work ... that does not mean that the auto assigning will guarantee the teams are balanced. I could just wait until CT has 1 player more then T and auto. Or there is the big possibility that people with good skills could get auto assigned in the same team anyway. Auto assigning doesn't calculate anything ...
I don't prefer T side because T are more skilled ... a lot of times Ts are raped. And I do play as CT if I am auto switched.
The problem is not on what team you play is on the actual auto balance. I think ETB is quite fcked up ... what we had on the old place was working OK (not the best, but OK). We never had the problem of 10 players vs 3!? As a matter of fact you could not stack a team because the number should of bean equal or just 1 plus.
I think that a combo between ETB and ATB will work wonders (if this is possible). We need something that calculates the skill of the players and number in the same time and for sure just auto assigning is not the answer (or at least that's my opinion).
Auto assigning for sure is NOT an alternative.
You will lose players if you enforce it.
And even if by any chance it will work ... that does not mean that the auto assigning will guarantee the teams are balanced. I could just wait until CT has 1 player more then T and auto. Or there is the big possibility that people with good skills could get auto assigned in the same team anyway. Auto assigning doesn't calculate anything ...
I don't prefer T side because T are more skilled ... a lot of times Ts are raped. And I do play as CT if I am auto switched.
The problem is not on what team you play is on the actual auto balance. I think ETB is quite fcked up ... what we had on the old place was working OK (not the best, but OK). We never had the problem of 10 players vs 3!? As a matter of fact you could not stack a team because the number should of bean equal or just 1 plus.
I think that a combo between ETB and ATB will work wonders (if this is possible). We need something that calculates the skill of the players and number in the same time and for sure just auto assigning is not the answer (or at least that's my opinion).
Propaganda
TD Member
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I think that a combo between ETB and ATB will work wonders (if this is possible). We need something that calculates the skill of the players and number in the same time and for sure just auto assigning is not the answer (or at least that's my opinion).
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There is no perfect solution to this issue. 10 VS 3? Not likely. That being said I realize at times it's gets a little iffy. I will look into the config further to make it more fair.
I think that a combo between ETB and ATB will work wonders (if this is possible). We need something that calculates the skill of the players and number in the same time and for sure just auto assigning is not the answer (or at least that's my opinion).
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There is no perfect solution to this issue. 10 VS 3? Not likely. That being said I realize at times it's gets a little iffy. I will look into the config further to make it more fair.
I agree with you 35, auto-assign will not solve team stacking. That's completely random. As Prop said, there are many settings in the ETB that have not been explored yet, one of them is max player differential.
The other thing is, we can't just depend on software to do this for us. We have perfectly good brains that work way better then software ever will and our Admins (myself included) need to step up once in awhile and switch some players around. I honestly forget to do this, or get caught up in the fight and get determined to "win" no matter what odds or what up hill battle I'm facing.
Last night for example, the GT's were often together on one team (always the easy side) and on Kismayo, there were at least 2 GT's and Steve, with 2 AWPS. Now that's when I should have stepped up and moved someone around. I've got to get it in my head that that's not "cheating", just being fair.
I will try harder to keep that in my head and remind our Admins too.
The other thing is, we can't just depend on software to do this for us. We have perfectly good brains that work way better then software ever will and our Admins (myself included) need to step up once in awhile and switch some players around. I honestly forget to do this, or get caught up in the fight and get determined to "win" no matter what odds or what up hill battle I'm facing.
Last night for example, the GT's were often together on one team (always the easy side) and on Kismayo, there were at least 2 GT's and Steve, with 2 AWPS. Now that's when I should have stepped up and moved someone around. I've got to get it in my head that that's not "cheating", just being fair.
I will try harder to keep that in my head and remind our Admins too.
We will tweak the ETB settings, but admins have to do their part as well. ETB is there to assist us admins in balancing teams. If you're an admin and you see the teams being unbalanced, please do it right and balance teams.
OG buckshot jr
TD Admin
bucky good call.
and i vote no because ONLY REASON - i want to play along side my bro... there's no more fun than pulling sick back-up-eachother-coming-back-from-7-2 to win the round, or just taking out a few, holding something down... it's so dirty.. tactical. good word. +1 buckshot jr, +1 my friend
and i vote no because ONLY REASON - i want to play along side my bro... there's no more fun than pulling sick back-up-eachother-coming-back-from-7-2 to win the round, or just taking out a few, holding something down... it's so dirty.. tactical. good word. +1 buckshot jr, +1 my friend