Airsoft
- Thread starter Cazador
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OG buckshot jr
TD Admin
I don't play either, but I know some guys on here do, and some others really know their shit.
Narf!
Rorschach12
cranswick
Narf!
Rorschach12
cranswick
Narf!
TD Admin
What you wanna know? Cost? Where to play? Rules?
Gonna post some pics of my babies:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2hit6/7569640804/ <--- My M4
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2hit6/3657169338/ <--- My AWP
Gonna post some pics of my babies:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2hit6/7569640804/ <--- My M4
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2hit6/3657169338/ <--- My AWP
Cazador
I'm New Here
What you wanna know? Cost? Where to play? Rules?
Gonna post some pics of my babies:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2hit6/7569640804/ <--- My M4
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2hit6/3657169338/ <--- My AWP
Yeah if you could maybe tell me some of the rules that the fields you play at and just any advice that you can think of that makes the game 100% more enjoyable
Narf!
TD Admin
Rules will vary from place to place, but most of them are just variations of what I'm about to tell you:
1) Goggles:
The *exact* requirements vary, but in general it's paintball goggles or any goggles with a balistic-proof rating of whatever is required by the field (the rating is stamped on the goggle itself)
http://blog.safetyglassesusa.com/safety-tips/how-to-identify-ballistic-rated-eyewear
Typically, the ANSI one is sufficient for airsoft although I've known a few fields to up their requirements for insurance purposes (although they seem to revert that change after they realize that airsofters aren't going to pay > $100 for new goggles just to play at their field)
If you're playing indoors, you'll want some sort of facemask and possibly a helmet.
2) FPS (feet per second muzzle velocity):
Also varies from field to field, but you can expect < 350fps for indoor games and anywhere from 375 to 450 for outdoor games.
3) Honor System:
It's not paintball, there's no mark that's left to show you've been hit so everything is based on the honor system. If you get hit, call "OUT!" put your hands up and walk off the field. Usually the game go pretty quickly and offer "X respawns" depending on the game type and is not worth trying to cheat.
On that note, people know if you've been hit too -- you'll most-likely flinch when you get hit and if ppl see you not calling your hits, they'll let it slide maybe the first or second time, give you verbal warnings afterwards and if you continue to think you're airsoft Rambo, then you'll either be left out of games, or people will continue drilling you with full-auto shots until you yell in pain (we play semi-auto only for indoors and maybe some full-auto is allowed for outdoors). Yes, we can be vicious when you don't play by the rules.
That said, we're not gonna call you out on stuff if it hits you in the vest or shoes and you can't be blamed for not feeling the hit in the heat of battle, but to be honest, a thin-ish/small vest to carry extra magazines and maybe a thin-ish long sleeve shirt is probably all you want. You want to fear the pain to feel the rush. If you wear full, thick armor from head to toe, you're won't be having fun :)
4) Equipment:
Does it matter? Mmmm...not really. The bottom line is: any gun that shoots 350fps is the same as any other gun that also shoots 350fps. So it's mostly about personal preference of aesthetics. That said, you will find that armalites (M4 variants) are the Honda Civics of airsoft guns and there's a lot more aftermarket parts/accessories for than if you were to use a SIG552, for example. Also, much like real guns, the longer the barrel, the better the accuracy so while muzzle velocity might be the same, an M4 with silencer hiding an extended inner barrel will have better groupings than an MP5 that's also shooting 350fps, gnome sane!?
5) Bolt action sniper rifles are cool!
Yes...yes they are, and that's why I have one. But please don't operate under the illusion that you're going to snipe someone across the filed without them touching you. Due to the FPS restrictions (typically BA sniper rifles have a slightly higher limit -- typically +25fps), BAs aren't going to outrange other guns by much (10' maybe?), but you would have to be at max range in order to take advantage of that. In most fields, your engagement distances are close enough that you won't be able to really outrange your opponent. So if you're just starting out, I wouldn't get this as your first gun because you won't be having fun with it. Mine is just a display item more than anything. I also sometimes fap to it (hey, don't judge me...)
6) Where to play?
I understand that you're in the US according to your profile, so any fields I name probably wouldn't mean anything to you, so you're on your own on this one.
7) Starting out:
Do so research/reading on the brands of guns. Waaaaay back when I started, there were really only 2 brands for AEGs (Auto Electric Guns): Tokyo Marui (TM) or Classic Army (CA), but in the last 5 years, a lot of cheaper Taiwanese brands have flooded the market and brands like TM are really hard/expensive to obtain. G&P, Magpul PTS, and KWA are all decent brands with good quality and pricing.
EDIT: starting out, you'll probably want to get a (ONE**) high-capacity magazine (or hi-cap). It's basically a magazine where you can pour in 300ish bb's and there's this gear at the bottom that you can wind to load up the mag again. A hi-cap = 300 rounds = $40. I run low or mid-caps which has much less capacity, but the reload process is much more fun and makes it much more realistic (also teaches you to not be as trigger-happy). Low caps = 40 rounds = $20 each and Mid-caps = 80 rounds = $35+
1) Goggles:
The *exact* requirements vary, but in general it's paintball goggles or any goggles with a balistic-proof rating of whatever is required by the field (the rating is stamped on the goggle itself)
http://blog.safetyglassesusa.com/safety-tips/how-to-identify-ballistic-rated-eyewear
Typically, the ANSI one is sufficient for airsoft although I've known a few fields to up their requirements for insurance purposes (although they seem to revert that change after they realize that airsofters aren't going to pay > $100 for new goggles just to play at their field)
If you're playing indoors, you'll want some sort of facemask and possibly a helmet.
2) FPS (feet per second muzzle velocity):
Also varies from field to field, but you can expect < 350fps for indoor games and anywhere from 375 to 450 for outdoor games.
3) Honor System:
It's not paintball, there's no mark that's left to show you've been hit so everything is based on the honor system. If you get hit, call "OUT!" put your hands up and walk off the field. Usually the game go pretty quickly and offer "X respawns" depending on the game type and is not worth trying to cheat.
On that note, people know if you've been hit too -- you'll most-likely flinch when you get hit and if ppl see you not calling your hits, they'll let it slide maybe the first or second time, give you verbal warnings afterwards and if you continue to think you're airsoft Rambo, then you'll either be left out of games, or people will continue drilling you with full-auto shots until you yell in pain (we play semi-auto only for indoors and maybe some full-auto is allowed for outdoors). Yes, we can be vicious when you don't play by the rules.
That said, we're not gonna call you out on stuff if it hits you in the vest or shoes and you can't be blamed for not feeling the hit in the heat of battle, but to be honest, a thin-ish/small vest to carry extra magazines and maybe a thin-ish long sleeve shirt is probably all you want. You want to fear the pain to feel the rush. If you wear full, thick armor from head to toe, you're won't be having fun :)
4) Equipment:
Does it matter? Mmmm...not really. The bottom line is: any gun that shoots 350fps is the same as any other gun that also shoots 350fps. So it's mostly about personal preference of aesthetics. That said, you will find that armalites (M4 variants) are the Honda Civics of airsoft guns and there's a lot more aftermarket parts/accessories for than if you were to use a SIG552, for example. Also, much like real guns, the longer the barrel, the better the accuracy so while muzzle velocity might be the same, an M4 with silencer hiding an extended inner barrel will have better groupings than an MP5 that's also shooting 350fps, gnome sane!?
5) Bolt action sniper rifles are cool!
Yes...yes they are, and that's why I have one. But please don't operate under the illusion that you're going to snipe someone across the filed without them touching you. Due to the FPS restrictions (typically BA sniper rifles have a slightly higher limit -- typically +25fps), BAs aren't going to outrange other guns by much (10' maybe?), but you would have to be at max range in order to take advantage of that. In most fields, your engagement distances are close enough that you won't be able to really outrange your opponent. So if you're just starting out, I wouldn't get this as your first gun because you won't be having fun with it. Mine is just a display item more than anything. I also sometimes fap to it (hey, don't judge me...)
6) Where to play?
I understand that you're in the US according to your profile, so any fields I name probably wouldn't mean anything to you, so you're on your own on this one.
7) Starting out:
Do so research/reading on the brands of guns. Waaaaay back when I started, there were really only 2 brands for AEGs (Auto Electric Guns): Tokyo Marui (TM) or Classic Army (CA), but in the last 5 years, a lot of cheaper Taiwanese brands have flooded the market and brands like TM are really hard/expensive to obtain. G&P, Magpul PTS, and KWA are all decent brands with good quality and pricing.
EDIT: starting out, you'll probably want to get a (ONE**) high-capacity magazine (or hi-cap). It's basically a magazine where you can pour in 300ish bb's and there's this gear at the bottom that you can wind to load up the mag again. A hi-cap = 300 rounds = $40. I run low or mid-caps which has much less capacity, but the reload process is much more fun and makes it much more realistic (also teaches you to not be as trigger-happy). Low caps = 40 rounds = $20 each and Mid-caps = 80 rounds = $35+
Narf!
TD Admin
Narf bring your gun to the meet so we can shoot brains.
^ What not to do unless you want to get arrested.
You want a locked case for any airsoft guns you're carrying and keep it in the trunk in case you get pulled over for speeding or something and they decide to check your car because they notice you're in full-camo...
It's easier to explain that airsoft is a sport and you're a responsible airsofter if you actually act like one rather than have your gun lying in the open on your passenger seat or back seat.
In the US I think they have a requirement to have the tips of airsoft guns painted bright orange (to denote it's a toy), whereas there isn't such a law here in Canada so for us, it's particularly important that we adhere to those rules.
ALthough, having the ETF surround and crash the TD meet would make it a night to remember...
Of course, I'd lose my gun and maybe go to jail...so...no go, Brades. Sorry!
Brains
TD Admin (and LiR)
Narf bring your gun to the meet so we can shoot brains.
I thought we bonded at the meet brades lol
Narf!
TD Admin
It's ok, Brades. Living with illiteracy can be painful. I won't judge you...much.
Cazador
I'm New Here
Hey Thanks for all of the tips! I have shown them to my friends that are also interested
