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AndyDizzle

DARKLY Regular
Survival of the fittest? Do you live in Somalia?
Obviously I was being figurative. I'm sure you could only imagine my embarrassment in assuming you would figure that out.
I'm interested in a world of mediocrity, a very high level of mediocrity.
This statement is convoluted. You're interested in a high level of mediocrity. So you're interested in excellence? So am I. Derp.
You're hooked on the American Dream and don't want to wake up.
I am an extreme realist. The American Dream is still alive and well. I've seen it. I've heard it. I've lived it. It's only natural that it would seen intangible to a cynic.
 

OG buckshot jr

TD Admin
why you guys always shittin on brown people, fuck, your a smart guy they should be no threat to you especially in the job market.

Well it's not just about brown people, it's about all people really. I suppose I used that example because they're the people who rape our government the most (ironically, they're the people who RUN our government as well.. Hmmmmmmm).
Anyway, I just used 'them' to make my point clear. And why not shit on them? Why should my family struggle hard with all 3 full-time (with good salaries, mind you) family members when Perjat's been here for less than a year, doesn't have a job, doesn't know English, but drives his Mercedez into my Civic and wins the insurance case. I'm tired of it man... we're too nice over here, and that's why I make ~$50,000 but only see $40,000 or less. Shit ain't right. My roads aren't paved, they're bumpy as fuck. I get no grants for Uni, but guess what: Perjat's to-be-doctor kid gets $20,000/year. I see it everyday, and have been seeing it through 4 years of university. I'm just tired man, tired. Always uphill while *SOME* people cruise by.
 
Why should my family struggle hard with all 3 full-time (with good salaries, mind you) family members

How could any family struggle with 3 good full time salaries? That is more about mismanagement of money than anything. My parents have been here for a very long time, and my dad has provided to a family of 5, with only 1 income of less than 50K a year. We had a house, 2 cars, paid for our education, clothes, trips and all. It's all about how you manage those funds. Maybe I didn't wear brand name clothes, but I didn't even really care for that shit, I was always too much of a nerd busy reading in the library or on the basketball court. That's not really a lack though. That's more of a want than a need.

The amount of brown people in this country is a problem, but then again there are 1.17 billion Indians in India. It's kind of hard for us not to have too many of them.... If 5% of their population immigrates to other countries, it's a flooding of Indian immigrants ALL OVER the fucking place, not just Canada. This is not even counting how many of them actually live outside of India right now. As to them raping our government, that is not really the case. They are very active in th communities they set up, get involved in politics, charities and many social events. Most Indians work for their moneyand pay taxes. Yah some of them are a burden on the system, but I can point to a much higher % of leechers from other communities, relatively speaking.

My biggest issue with the immigration is the fucking old people they are letting in the country. Way too much strain on our system. Our system can barely deal as it is with our aging population, let alone the idiotic government allowing more old folks in. That's becoming a serious issue right now.

I'm not Indian. I don't like a lot of things about Indian immigrants, but that's more because they want to turn this fucking country in Canindia than because of where they come from. If people from my background do that shit, I tell them the same thing. This is Canada. You want to make a home away from home, fuck you, GTFO. You come here, this becomes the only home, and you abide and respect this country and it's ways, not change it to suit your needs. That's what the problem is with most immigrants, regardless of their background.

Fuck all immigrants who still associate with back "home". This is home now and I'm a proud Canadian terrorist.
 

OG buckshot jr

TD Admin
@ Taco - move here, then say it's a generalization :o
@ Commander - it's definitely not mismanagement, it's just taxes, education, everything.. shit's expensive when you pay for your own family, and the 3 neighbours and their 12 kids...
@ Fork, I'm not surprised. It's about time they stop being racist and let every country immigrate here on equal terms, and not "advanced" immigration for *one* country while everybody else waits much longer. Not even that, but that *one* country can come here so much more easily while other countries' people must go through ridiculous hoops :/
 

Fork Included

TD Admin
speaking from experience, my father is currently in the process of sponsoring my grandmother to come to Canada. Ever since my grandfather passed away she doesn't have much left to do over there.

My dad already spent 2 years doing all kinds of paperwork and immigration told him that it would be another FOUR before they reach a verdict.

So believe you me, they are NOT simply letting people in en-mass, unless you're a refugee of some sort, then they tend to deal with you quicker (at least you'll spend 1-2 years in Canada before they kick you out)
 

iCe

TD Admin
Liberals...

"its about everyone"... im sure if that bum on the street got 10 million he would say hey maybe i could help out someone else... DOUBT IT
 

Fork Included

TD Admin
Liberals...

"its about everyone"... im sure if that bum on the street got 10 million he would say hey maybe i could help out someone else... DOUBT IT

why are talking about bums, and why are you throwing around large sums of money, why does it have to be so absolute with you?

and why would you give a bum money, he has a proven track record of not being good at keeping his life in order.


really ice, you're using the color green to describe the color red and i seriously will not be surprised to see you standing next to either Cain or Perry during their inauguration, eyes balling and cock erect from joy with an americalian flag sticking out of your back pocket.
 

iCe

TD Admin
Your right fork...

Socialism/Communism have been proven to work?

Downfall of Germany/Russia.


Some things just don't work. There's no reason to liberate other countries or pay for illegals health care cause its the humane thing to do. There are costs that are just unresonable. Most people do not understand how the financial system works. We go back to that "entitlement" theroy. Can you please explain to me what you are entitled to besides paying taxes and dying? And if you do have an answer I want a reason for it, not just because we are good people and they deserve it.
 

Brades

Bailer
Staff member
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Fork Included

TD Admin
Your right fork...

Socialism/Communism have been proven to work?

Downfall of Germany/Russia.


Some things just don't work. There's no reason to liberate other countries or pay for illegals health care cause its the humane thing to do. There are costs that are just unresonable. Most people do not understand how the financial system works. We go back to that "entitlement" theroy. Can you please explain to me what you are entitled to besides paying taxes and dying? And if you do have an answer I want a reason for it, not just because we are good people and they deserve it.

Ice, you're using arguments that are 40 years old. There are easily identifiable technological reasons why communism did not work back then, most to do with speed of communication and the existence of independent watch dogs.

GDR was not communist, GDR was a state run dictatorship with few social freedoms and a desire to remain independent from everyone around them

USSR was a mess to start with, Imperialist Russia was on shaky ground, the royal family was losing their power and internal conflict was plentiful. At the turn of the century we were hit with WWi, shortly after the Russian Revolution crippled the entire nation where the Red, lead by Lenin under the communism slogan fought against the "white", or the middle and upper classes of the bourgeois. This absolutely destroyed the economic foundation of one of the worlds largest and powerful (at the time) nations. Only a few years later WWII broke out, and unlike America the economic infrastructure of Russia and all of the satellite nations that it later put under its spawn were demolished. Capitalism or Communism, the road to recovery would still have been difficult. Not to mention that Russia now had to control all of these other nations, with their own culture, religion, economic abilities, social needs, etc.

To say that communism failed in the USSR based on a purely ideological grounds is downright insulting, it shows that you have no history knowledge and a very limited understanding of what a nation needs to operate on the world front.

Do you know where Lenin, communism's front man, got his ideas from? A little pamphlet known as the communist manifesto, produced by Karl Marx. It is about 60-70 pages and is nothing more than Marx's own thoughts on where and how society will progress after capitalism , the key word here is AFTER. Karl Marx, the so called father of "communism" spent his entire life, up until his death, studying capitalism. His life's work is Das Kapital, a 3 volume collection of political science observations on the birth and the eventual collapse of capitalism.

Many of the things that he wrote about have already presented themselves in America, and many of the things that have been predicted will happen.

Russia jumped a generation, it tried to go from a shaky imperialism straight into communism amidst the social turmoil that has been going on for almost a full century.

America went the route that Marx's predicted. A gradual growth from imperialism into capitalism. But there IS a next step. And if you bothered to read the scholarly literature on the subject and not just listen to FOX news all the time, you would be of a different opinion.

i suggest you start here.

http://www.amazon.com/Capital-Critique-Political-Economy-Classics/dp/0140445684
 

Steve

TD Admin | Bacon
Ice, you're using arguments that are 40 years old. There are easily identifiable technological reasons why communism did not work back then, most to do with speed of communication and the existence of independent watch dogs.

You make it sound like it works somewhere now, where would that functioning world power be?

Communism is good on paper and that is it. It does not work because there will always be those who put in more then others. Doctors will always be more important then school teachers and factory workers. Equality is a lie. NO ONE IS EQUAL, and its not about race or sex its about initiative and drive. It's human nature to take more for yourself, which is why doctors rise to pay position they do. They do it because it will reward THEM. Not 'just' because it provides an important service to society. When you enslave people with equality it does nothing but bring down the quality of many important services. Business suffers, because there is no reward for the risk anymore. Without strong business you are left with a shit state like the USSR. Medical quality suffers, because there is no reward for time and skill investment. Lets not even get into the absurdity of government dictating the production of the economy. Anyone who's taken a single microeconomics course knows this. But its not about math and common sense to socialists is it?

Communism are nothing but a utopian pipe dream.
 

iCe

TD Admin
Ice, you're using arguments that are 40 years old. There are easily identifiable technological reasons why communism did not work back then, most to do with speed of communication and the existence of independent watch dogs.

GDR was not communist, GDR was a state run dictatorship with few social freedoms and a desire to remain independent from everyone around them

USSR was a mess to start with, Imperialist Russia was on shaky ground, the royal family was losing their power and internal conflict was plentiful. At the turn of the century we were hit with WWi, shortly after the Russian Revolution crippled the entire nation where the Red, lead by Lenin under the communism slogan fought against the "white", or the middle and upper classes of the bourgeois. This absolutely destroyed the economic foundation of one of the worlds largest and powerful (at the time) nations. Only a few years later WWII broke out, and unlike America the economic infrastructure of Russia and all of the satellite nations that it later put under its spawn were demolished. Capitalism or Communism, the road to recovery would still have been difficult. Not to mention that Russia now had to control all of these other nations, with their own culture, religion, economic abilities, social needs, etc.

To say that communism failed in the USSR based on a purely ideological grounds is downright insulting, it shows that you have no history knowledge and a very limited understanding of what a nation needs to operate on the world front.

Do you know where Lenin, communism's front man, got his ideas from? A little pamphlet known as the communist manifesto, produced by Karl Marx. It is about 60-70 pages and is nothing more than Marx's own thoughts on where and how society will progress after capitalism , the key word here is AFTER. Karl Marx, the so called father of "communism" spent his entire life, up until his death, studying capitalism. His life's work is Das Kapital, a 3 volume collection of political science observations on the birth and the eventual collapse of capitalism.

Many of the things that he wrote about have already presented themselves in America, and many of the things that have been predicted will happen.

Russia jumped a generation, it tried to go from a shaky imperialism straight into communism amidst the social turmoil that has been going on for almost a full century.

America went the route that Marx's predicted. A gradual growth from imperialism into capitalism. But there IS a next step. And if you bothered to read the scholarly literature on the subject and not just listen to FOX news all the time, you would be of a different opinion.

i suggest you start here.

http://www.amazon.com/Capital-Critique-Political-Economy-Classics/dp/0140445684

Are you on crack?

I work for one of the LARGEST financial institutions in the WORLD. I have a BS in finance and minor in accounting. I have taken history classes. I do not watch FOX news. I am aware of the world how it is today and what it was and today its pure shit.

Finance/Economics fuel a nation. I may have exaggerated with the use of the fall of USSR/Germany. But you still have yet to answer my question on entitlements. It seems you are all for universal health care and being humane... I WANT TO KNOW WHY YOU THINK PEOPLE DESERVE ANYTHING.
 

Fork Included

TD Admin
Are you on crack?

I work for one of the LARGEST financial institutions in the WORLD. I have a BS in finance and minor in accounting. I have taken history classes. I do not watch FOX news. I am aware of the world how it is today and what it was and today its pure shit.

Finance/Economics fuel a nation. I may have exaggerated with the use of the fall of USSR/Germany. But you still have yet to answer my question on entitlements. It seems you are all for universal health care and being humane... I WANT TO KNOW WHY YOU THINK PEOPLE DESERVE ANYTHING.

Ice, i live in a country with universal health care, it's nice

and whatever education you say you have, must have been printed off google, because nothing you EVER say sounds even remotely intelligent.
 

dead mike

TD Member, Legend, Puncher of Faces, Chatbox King
mraaaaaaa 100th post, politics, economics finance all fake gypsies

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