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RFID CHIP by IBM (NSFW)

DevilMayCare

Future Ban List Occupant
This is where they want to start ... they will take our money and put it into digital currency then we can be cut off at the flick of a switch no access to funds
I read a article in the new papers a few months ago on the front page even about the mint wanting to get rid of all change under 5 dollars and put it on a chip that would only be the start a test if you would to see how much control they can exercise over us.(such as not being able to use your cell phone when you are in the car .. phones don't cause accidents bad drivers do any one who thinks otherwise is ignorant.)

http://www.thestar.com/business/article/1159513--royal-canadian-mint-to-create-digital-currency = Royal Canadian Mint to create digital currency

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2012/04/12/mintchip-misses-the-point-of-digital-currency/ = MintChip Misses the Point of Digital Currency


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eob532iEpqk this will be a future I wouldn't want to see

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5Je12G94RU
 

$alvador

TD Member
How can we be cut off at the flick of a switch when the MintChip is going to be anonymous like hard cash? Also, that IBM ad is old as fuck and companies are trying to get away from RFID altogether since it can so easily be spoofed/hacked. What is that saying again.. making mountains out of molehills?
 

DevilMayCare

Future Ban List Occupant
Believe what you like , I have no doubt the end goal is to leave us with a digital currency under their control and I am not saying the mintchip is how they plan to do it I am just saying it's a good start . As well the commercial may be old but like the title says "Future Market" .
 

adam::davis

2011 Troll of the Year
Also, that IBM ad is old as fuck and companies are trying to get away from RFID altogether since it can so easily be spoofed/hacked. What is that saying again.. making mountains out of molehills?

So what is the alternative to RFID ??
 

$alvador

TD Member
nothing beats RFID for size but encryption is weak at best for those that fit under skin. what do you mean by alternatives? technically, a credit card is an RFID alternative. the mag stripe contains a few lines with the card's data but it's possible to just snatch that data out of the air like it is with an RFID. I don't see the point of demonizing the technology just because fails to offer adequate information protection, there are many applications for it where its perfect because privacy isn't a concern.

Believe what you like , I have no doubt the end goal is to leave us with a digital currency under their control and I am not saying the mintchip is how they plan to do it I am just saying it's a good start . As well the commercial may be old but like the title says "Future Market" .

Who the fuck is "they" who have this masterful end goal of controlling digital currency? I don't know if you didn't realize this or what but there was already a huge public backlash about RFID implants years ago, notice how IBM manufactures a wide range of RFID devices but... none of them seem to be freaky implants that look like they came from the matrix. If memory serves, IBM has done a good number of these future technology thinktank promos. Intelligent cities was another one. I have no fucking doubt IBM will one day rule the world but they wouldn't fuck it up too bad.

If you think any government is retarded enough to put out a currency that allows them to control people, you're crazy. The fundamental basis of fiat currency is trust. If people lose trust in a nation's money, they use something else. The existence of Bitcoin is proof of that. Even Communist China understands this shit! They have a fucking internet firewall and you can't go to an internet café without handing over your ID to the clerk and yet Special Economic Zones where the rules of capitalism are allowed to run rampant so they don't fall behind the global standard. The U.S. already has insane ways to exert control over their citizens and lock people up but they're still pumpin out C notes. So that apparently rules out two world powers who might be trying to implement "digital currency under their control".

I think you're too caught up in thinking that the government wants to basically control our bank accounts. I don't know if you realize this but you're already using a "MintChip" a lot. Debit cards and credit cards, issued by the only type of enterprise to see and even influence the rise and fall of governments and empires and still make hay in a recession: banks. You think any government is gonna try to fuck them? If memory serves, the U.S. government kowtowed to them in the form of gratuitous bailouts despite the fact it was the banks that totally screwed the pooch. I dunno, maybe I'm wrong. Who, then, is the "they" who want to control the currency so maliciously?
 

dead mike

TD Member, Legend, Puncher of Faces, Chatbox King
lol my cats have some rfid chips, gotta pay ~15 bucks every year to the to the city to keep them licensed, apparently if someone from animal services picks them up they die if you haven't paid that fee, flippin nazis
 

OG buckshot jr

TD Admin
To my knowledge, RFID chips are hugely popular (and cost effective) in keeping pets in check so they don't get caught, put down/put in shelters and given away etc. should they ever get loose and run away. Being a pet owner (cat), I appreciate that sort of application.

Also there is a family in Florida who willingly 'chipped' their entire family, after an incident involving one of their daughters went missing and was found (this is old news now, probably from the very early 2000's). This kind of slows me down and wonders if it's all nonsense, as I really wouldn't want to see any sort of human application, no matter how 'beneficial' it might seem at the time.
 

DevilMayCare

Future Ban List Occupant
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Is this a mosquito…NO! This is an "INSECT SPY DRONE" already in production. It can be controlled from a great distance and is equipped with a camera, microphone and can land on you, and use it's needle to take a DNA sample with the pain of a mosquito bite. Or it can inject a micro RFID tracking device under your skin. It can land on you, and you take it in your home or it can fly through a window. Funny, don't you see your window of privacy getting real narrow these days? They are preparing but for what?

The US military reveals its latest publicly releasable spy drone technology – drones the size of bugs used to fire missiles and track “enemy combatants”..

Before I continue, notice my headline says “ADMIT” because whenever the military makes something public knowledge the technology is usually decades old. Case in point, the internet was developed in the 60′s. There are plenty of more examples.

Personally discussions I have with people “in the know” tell me about nano drones that sneak into your house inside of your electrical wires. Anyway, that is all conspiracy. Here are the “facts” that “we know” from the corporate media”.

War Evolves With Drones, Some Tiny as Bugs

WRIGHT-PATTERSON AIR FORCE BASE, Ohio — Two miles from the cow pasture where the Wright Brothers learned to fly the first airplanes, military researchers are at work on another revolution in the air: shrinking unmanned drones, the kind that fire missiles into Pakistan and spy on insurgents in Afghanistan, to the size of insects and birds.

The base’s indoor flight lab is called the “microaviary,” and for good reason. The drones in development here are designed to replicate the flight mechanics of moths, hawks and other inhabitants of the natural world. “We’re looking at how you hide in plain sight,” said Greg Parker, an aerospace engineer, as he held up a prototype of a mechanical hawk that in the future might carry out espionage or kill.

Half a world away in Afghanistan, Marines marvel at one of the new blimplike spy balloons that float from a tether 15,000 feet above one of the bloodiest outposts of the war, Sangin in Helmand Province. The balloon, called an aerostat, can transmit live video — from as far as 20 miles away — of insurgents planting homemade bombs. “It’s been a game-changer for me,” Capt. Nickoli Johnson said in Sangin this spring. “I want a bunch more put in.”

From blimps to bugs, an explosion in aerial drones is transforming the way America fights and thinks about its wars. Predator drones, the Cessna-sized workhorses that have dominated unmanned flight since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, are by now a brand name, known and feared around the world. But far less widely known are the sheer size, variety and audaciousness of a rapidly expanding drone universe, along with the dilemmas that come with it.

The Pentagon now has some 7,000 aerial drones, compared with fewer than 50 a decade ago. Within the next decade the Air Force anticipates a decrease in manned aircraft but expects its number of “multirole” aerial drones like the Reaper — the ones that spy as well as strike — to nearly quadruple, to 536. Already the Air Force is training more remote pilots, 350 this year alone, than fighter and bomber pilots combined.

NY Times: US Military Admits To Having Spy Drones As Small As Bugs
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/06/20/ny-times-military-admits-spy-drones-small-bugs-29701/
The New York Times
War Evolves With Drones, Some Tiny as Bugs
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/20/world/20drones.html?pagewanted=all

http://hi-caliber.blogspot.com/2012/06/insect-spy-drones-coming-near-you.html

Insect Spy Drones coming near you
More Pictures Of Drones http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2011/06/20/world/20110620-DRONES.html

Mini Insect Robocops: Engineers, Government Work on RC Insects
http://veritasradio.blogspot.com/2012/05/mini-insect-robocops-engineers.html

Military Mosquito Robots Collecting DNA Blood!
http://bit.ly/NDY3Vp

Experimental Vaccine Daily Blog
http://bit.ly/LrvFAV

Advanced Dragonfly-like Drones and Black Helicopters Spy on Illinois Citizen http://theintelhub.com/2012/02/15/a...and-black-helicopters-spy-on-chicago-citizen/
 

$alvador

TD Member
you know, it's possible to look at every news about every innovation that might be misused and believe the new world order is behind it all. it's also possible to go batshit from doing that.

the mosquito is cool but we already have CCTVs watching us in many places so it's not that much different to be replacing them with flying insects. it's funny, this shit reminds me of that book The Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson. it's all about nano machines being everywhere, to the point where it's even part of the smog. At some point we'll probably get there, but I greatly prefer lazy government sending technology after me because on the flipside there are always countermeasures to any kind of technology. It's easier to cockblock robotic mosquitoes than to tell people sitting in cars across the street watching you that they're fucking your flow up.

If you're truly convinced that the future is so bleak because of RFID chips and drones, why not learn the same skills the developers learned and come up with your own ways to defeat the technology? I guess you could also go the redneck route and carry around a car battery hooked up to an iron ring with copper wire coiled on it, but those things get pretty heavy to tote all day long.
 

DevilMayCare

Future Ban List Occupant
Honestly can't say I am too worried about the world going to shit it will happen or it won't Just thought that last bit was interesting just cause I saw it floating around on facebook lol , I assure you I am not losing my mind : ) I just like talking about random things
 

Dean

TD Member
RFID is an essential part of package tracking, and shipping for major supply chains, this technology brings you the low prices at Walmart.

Most of the concerns about RFID conspiracies pertain to legislation possibilities and not the technology itself.
 

foreversnafu

The New Jakk
The technology to cut you off from the world already exists, and it's credit not hard cash.

Just look what happened to wikileaks after MC, Visa, and paypal cut them off.

Frankly I'm surprised they didn't just shut down and reopen business under a different name, then again I'm sure it's more complicated than that.

Any who, banks cannot fully control our currency as in the long run it's us people who decide what's valuable and what isn't.

Also, governments want you to use this technology not so they can cut you off but track all your income come tax time.
 

$alvador

TD Member
Wikileaks takes bitcoin donations now, and there's also a bitcoin debit card and point of sale system in the pipeline. Cryptocurrency is going to become the next big thing, the big hurdle is just for such a currency to gain the trust of enough people that it becomes considered as valid as government-backed cash. The problem with digital enterprises is that there are no guarantees; servers can be taken offline, proprietors can close up shop and move to Thailand on a whim, it's tough to build trust when an idea starts on the internet. The debit cards will make BTC more tangible and probably will be suitable replacement for PayPal considering how many people hate the fuck out of PayPal.
 

Gatherix

Death by Darkly
Well, from a broader standpoint one problem with digitalizing everything and forcing everything to become reliant on technology is just how insecure it really is. Scanning personal information off an RFID tag is incredibly easy with a small handheld scanner in your pocket while you're waiting in line to checkout your groceries, or how easy it is to read someone's personal information over wireless transmission by capturing the packets in the air. Really. It's incredibly easy, and what makes it scary is that most people don't realize that. Having everything reliant on technology both makes you more organized and secure, yet makes you more vulnerable to devastating attacks.
 
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