Rates assistance.

cl_updaterate #
cl_cmdrate #
cl_crosshairscale #

What have you all found to be the ideal number for these and some of the other commands that can have a dramatic effect on gameplay?

Betterman gave me his whole layout of commands, but I had to re install Windows recently and get all setup again since I moved.. So, I am back to square one again..

Any assistance is appreciated..
 

OG buckshot jr

TD Admin
Doolox how fast is your comp? Post some specs, and your rates could be adjusted to that...

I have a fast comp and use cmd 100, update 100, rate 30000 (cable internet 10Mb/s down, 1Mb/s up) ... I get at most 3-4 choke, mostly 0. No loss (that would be your ISP, not the server anyway)....

Also, are you looking for just the rates, or full optimization of game PERFORMANCE vs. less graphical? Let me know, I know lots of that shit...
 
Anyone that sacrifices performance for graphics is a fag (unless they have a shitty ass PC). The game is meant for enjoyment, not omg 1337 white walls i see you boom headshot slap my balls and call my sally. I built my system 2 years ago, run everythign at full detail, high res and get 150-200 fps on every map, same rates as bj with 0-2/3 choke.
 
I'd say I am not running a high end computer anymore.. I am probably in the "little bit better than good enough" to run CS admirably category..

It is a Gateway PC from '02 and I put an apparently good graphics card into it a year later.. I'd have to crack it open to remember whats in there.. It's been so long, lol..
 
In that case, the only thing I'd recommend would be stick with bucky's rates, drop your details down to medium (low if still shit) and if you absolutely must.. change cl_ragdollenable (some this like that when you hit ragdoll it will fill in teh rest) put that to 0. It'll take off the dead bodies so I assume it would run smoother as your comp would have less to process. Aside from that I don't know any commands that would help out.
 

OG buckshot jr

TD Admin
cl_ejectbrass 0 - no gunshells eject from your gun when you shoot.

cl_ragdoll_physics_enable 0 - no flying bodies, they disappear very shortly after they die.

r_3dsky 0 - renders sky in 2D as opposed to 3D, thus lowering amount to process while keeping GFX good.

r_cheap_water_start 1, r_cheap_water_end 1 or 2 - draws basic, cheap-looking water - much less to process, looks crappy, but 'game-able'.

mp_decals 10 - limits (either sprays, bullet holes, shit like that), doesn't affect GFX, lowers process load.

cl_muzzleflashlight 0 - disables the flash from your gun barrel upon shooting it - won't hinder GFX while lowering process load.

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These are some good ones to start on that won't completely kill your game while running it. Some things (outside of CS:S) that would incredibly increase your in-game performance are:

-> Latest (WHQL certified) drivers for your video card. If it's ATI get latest ATI control panel + drivers, if it's Nvidia www.nvidia.com for latest Nvidia control panel + drivers. The control panels will enable you to dictate to your GFX card HOW it will handle graphical content - i.e. disabling "anisotropic filtering" and "anti-aliasing" to greatly improve rendering performance while not really (at all, to be honest) hindering graphical representation. Also, you can set your card to "performance mode" - rendering higher FPS while hurting GFX the least. There's lots of settings in the control panels, all of which are described enough for you to easily set each one to better your gaming experience. You don't have to be a professor to figure them out, trust me ;).

The last thing I would consider doing, if your still experience shitty gameplay (low FPS) would be to introduce Launch commands on your Counter-Strike Source. I'm not gonna get into here, try all these first, but it could really help slower machines run CS:S more smoothly, at higher FPS, and not too bad graphically.

Test 'em out, let us know.
 
I wouldn't say I have a shitty game play.. Just @ times it can run poorly/choppy and I am trying to avoid more rounds like that..

Thx for all the info on the commands.. Going to toss them into console later in the week..
 
Doolox, I know your pain good sir. What I found helped (although I have recently upgraded to a 512MB HD3850 AGP video card and an extra GB of Ram) was that I decided to have a regular OS for everything I did and a Gaming OS on a separate HD for running any Games. On the Gaming OS I have all Windows themes and graphics effects disabled and have almost all services disabled. I don't have any Anti virus on the Gaming OS (both are XP sp3 by the way). Right way I noticed a 20ms ping improvement, absolutely NO loss and 3/4 choke. I run full graphics and get 85 FPS (fps_max) solid on all maps. I only have an Athlon XP 2.0 GHz processor. I built my PC in 2003.

I only say this because choppiness and faults can be caused by page file problems resulting from have too many network processes running in the background. (but in order for your system to be secure, many of these have to be running)

Anyways, noticed you mentioned you had an older system.. hopefully it helps.
 

Fork Included

TD Admin
whats happens to most people, over time, is that all the porn they watch and random or accidental visits to bogus websites, bit torrent downloads, your friends "downloading something cool they want to show you", and so forth, starts adding up spyware, malware, shitware and fuckware on to your computer

and in MY experience, no amount of anitvirus, firewalls or any other bullshit can prevent that crap from piling up, feeding on your precious resources and bandwith.

so keeripes has it right, if you truly want to maximize your rig, reformat everything, including any spare harddrives.

reinstall a fresh OS, download all the updates, turnoff as much windows junk as you can, and then install ONLY GAMES

do not install messenger, torrents, movies, or anything other than games that requires or would like a connection to the internet, (including porn)


if you only have 1 gaming machine you can either go the dual boot option, altho i am not familiar with that at all and honestly would not recommend installing two instances of windows on the same machines unless you have two completely separate hard drives.

or just do a total system reformat atleast once a year (or more often), the only downside of this is about 4-5 hours wasting installing everything from scratch, but believe you me speeds go up (not just gaming, overall system performance)

i also recomend replacing your harddrive alltogether once every 2 years, the harddrive is the one part of your computer that wears out due to mechanical operation and burning.


and finaly, some bragging on my part

back when i installed fresh and played on this new TD server, i was getting between 3-5ms connection VIA net_graph 3

to this day, when a new map loads, unless i got a lag spike, i am ALWAYS the first person to join the server ^_^

suckers.
 

Spinny

TD Admin / Giant Faggot
For whatever reason when I had my cmdrate and updaterate at 100 (after we 'upgraded' to 100 tic), I was getting mad ass choke (and I do have a damn good PC so it has nothing to do with that). So I lowered my cmdrate and updaterate (which other TD members told me to try) to 50, and now I get no choke, and I really can't tell the difference between 100 to 50. Try this. And it doesn't seem to affect more scores at all so :D
 

OG buckshot jr

TD Admin
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to this day, when a new map loads, unless i got a lag spike, i am ALWAYS the first person to join the server ^_^

suckers.
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ya right after me. sucker.
 
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Doolox, I know your pain good sir. What I found helped (although I have recently upgraded to a 512MB HD3850 AGP video card and an extra GB of Ram) was that I decided to have a regular OS for everything I did and a Gaming OS on a separate HD for running any Games. On the Gaming OS I have all Windows themes and graphics effects disabled and have almost all services disabled. I don't have any Anti virus on the Gaming OS (both are XP sp3 by the way). Right way I noticed a 20ms ping improvement, absolutely NO loss and 3/4 choke. I run full graphics and get 85 FPS (fps_max) solid on all maps. I only have an Athlon XP 2.0 GHz processor. I built my PC in 2003.

I only say this because choppiness and faults can be caused by page file problems resulting from have too many network processes running in the background. (but in order for your system to be secure, many of these have to be running)

Anyways, noticed you mentioned you had an older system.. hopefully it helps.
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I was thinking about getting a new card for my AGP port.. And I know I looked into that when I originally bought the computer to ensure I could upgrade it for gaming down the road.. Just gotta figure out what to buy when I get the chance..
 
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....reinstall a fresh OS, download all the updates, turnoff as much windows junk as you can, and then install ONLY GAMES...........

do not install messenger, torrents, movies, or anything other than games that requires or would like a connection to the internet, (including porn)............

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Have a fresh copy of XP setup.. Only games are going on this thing.. I get good ping, my issue is I still feel I dont get the performance I should.. Therefore, it must be my setup and my PC could use a new video card..
 

OG buckshot jr

TD Admin
It's a comp from 2002 man, he's probably got no PCI-E on it... DURRRRRRRRR?!?!

Doolox - Nvidia Geforce FX 5500 AGP8x, amazing for the price ($40-60). OR, something a little better, ATI 38xx series, like a 3870, 3850.. they're bomb too...
 
Durrrrr, yeah lol. I overlooked that, haven't had an agp since hte ati 9800. No way you're comparing an agp card to an ati x3870 though (unless they have a non "x") series, I dunno?
 

OG buckshot jr

TD Admin
k ya you're right, it's 3850!, not 3870... but still, expensive and GOOD cards man... Although MANY are affordable...

Here's the link to sick cards that are AGP:

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/category/category_slc.asp?Recs=30&Nav=|c:31:-|&Sort=1

it's Tiger Direct's one, check it out!
 
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