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iCe
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[quote1269540182=Leroy]
[quote1269539869=iCe]
if any admins vote no....they better be switching ppl around cause auto balance didnt work before... and there are a handful of admins that didnt do shit to balance teams.. so im gonna be dropping bombs like baghdad in here if this shit gets crazy again cause i can see where the poll is going... i will fucking ban stackers as well
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No, actually, you won't. And furthermore, lead by example, and switch to the unstacked team.
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actually i do and i swap players like an admin should do... so relax u l4d fag
[quote1269539869=iCe]
if any admins vote no....they better be switching ppl around cause auto balance didnt work before... and there are a handful of admins that didnt do shit to balance teams.. so im gonna be dropping bombs like baghdad in here if this shit gets crazy again cause i can see where the poll is going... i will fucking ban stackers as well
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No, actually, you won't. And furthermore, lead by example, and switch to the unstacked team.
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actually i do and i swap players like an admin should do... so relax u l4d fag
Shortbus
Professional Cocksucker
[quote1269542507=iCe]
[quote1269540145=Shortbus]
I'm glad you give up cause ur wrong and too arrogant to admit it.
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stfu stacker...swear u have not seen my wrath if this comes off... cause stackers will be banned..
-not a joke
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stacker? You better be trollin' yank.
[quote1269540145=Shortbus]
I'm glad you give up cause ur wrong and too arrogant to admit it.
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stfu stacker...swear u have not seen my wrath if this comes off... cause stackers will be banned..
-not a joke
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stacker? You better be trollin' yank.
[quote1269543050=iCe]
....... if regulars wouldnt stack then theirs no problems... i came on the server yest seen it 9-1 cts dominating on fir and i see all the ppl on ct figures none of them would switch to t if they didnt have auto so either way your logic fails...
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How can you correlate a 9-1 score with team stacking after just arriving and knowing nothing about the round that just took place? Sometimes just having have 1 All Star, like Apeshit or that Rabies guy, on your team lately can be enough to sweep a round on a map.
There is already a mod to even out the teams. Whenever I go on a run of like 5-0 to start a round, which rarely happens, I am always booted to the other side. A team getting dominated doesn't always mean the other side stacked.
I'd say AFK players are more of a problem because when I find I am on a team getting b*tch whipped, there tends to be 3-4 guys who are AFK or f@ckin around with each other before playing properly. Creating a shorter AFK window would be more used than a forced auto join policy such as this.
....... if regulars wouldnt stack then theirs no problems... i came on the server yest seen it 9-1 cts dominating on fir and i see all the ppl on ct figures none of them would switch to t if they didnt have auto so either way your logic fails...
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How can you correlate a 9-1 score with team stacking after just arriving and knowing nothing about the round that just took place? Sometimes just having have 1 All Star, like Apeshit or that Rabies guy, on your team lately can be enough to sweep a round on a map.
There is already a mod to even out the teams. Whenever I go on a run of like 5-0 to start a round, which rarely happens, I am always booted to the other side. A team getting dominated doesn't always mean the other side stacked.
I'd say AFK players are more of a problem because when I find I am on a team getting b*tch whipped, there tends to be 3-4 guys who are AFK or f@ckin around with each other before playing properly. Creating a shorter AFK window would be more used than a forced auto join policy such as this.
OG buckshot jr
TD Admin
Ah, I wouldn't worry too much about AFK's, most admins kick 'em anyway - server gets full and AFK's are booted.
BUT, I see your point about the guys who just "fuck around". However, we can't kick them because they're not camping, tking, blocking etc. or anything of the sort - they may just be shit lol
BUT, I see your point about the guys who just "fuck around". However, we can't kick them because they're not camping, tking, blocking etc. or anything of the sort - they may just be shit lol
[quote1269545702=Doolox]
There is already a mod to even out the teams. Whenever I go on a run of like 5-0 to start a round, which rarely happens, I am always booted to the other side. A team getting dominated doesn't always mean the other side stacked.
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Too bad the auto-balance mod balances teams based on size and not KPD. Therefore, it only makes sure that there is an equal number of players on each team, but it DOES NOT ensure that the teams are balanced based on skills/performance.
There is already a mod to even out the teams. Whenever I go on a run of like 5-0 to start a round, which rarely happens, I am always booted to the other side. A team getting dominated doesn't always mean the other side stacked.
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Too bad the auto-balance mod balances teams based on size and not KPD. Therefore, it only makes sure that there is an equal number of players on each team, but it DOES NOT ensure that the teams are balanced based on skills/performance.
LB...It does shave the team with more players from the top, taking the higher scoring players first. I see what you mean tho when the teams are even player count wise. A mod factoring KPD would be great after 3-4 rounds.
I just don't see this "auto-join" necessity being an effective means to preventing team stacking. I usually join a team with players I usually chat with or the side I have a preference for, which I'm sure we all do. That is why I still find this auto-join is kind of a nuisance. If one map has everyone wanting to be CT, like Cbble, then why not just throw it out of rotation in favor of a more neutral map? My point, it f@cks with the social aspects of the server.
The way the auto-join is setup, it also gives 'admin' players an advantage. They can go to Spec & back as many times as they like. Therefore they can join a team, make a bet, join spec, join a team & have more cash than the 'laymen' player who cannot take advantage of that anymore. If you're going to implement it fairly, make it apply to all.
I just don't see this "auto-join" necessity being an effective means to preventing team stacking. I usually join a team with players I usually chat with or the side I have a preference for, which I'm sure we all do. That is why I still find this auto-join is kind of a nuisance. If one map has everyone wanting to be CT, like Cbble, then why not just throw it out of rotation in favor of a more neutral map? My point, it f@cks with the social aspects of the server.
The way the auto-join is setup, it also gives 'admin' players an advantage. They can go to Spec & back as many times as they like. Therefore they can join a team, make a bet, join spec, join a team & have more cash than the 'laymen' player who cannot take advantage of that anymore. If you're going to implement it fairly, make it apply to all.
The balancer does not take the top player. If it does, it is nothing but a coincidence. It randomly picks a player, usually one that is dead. Nothing to do with score whatsoever.
[quote1269550109=LoW BuDgEt]
The balancer does not take the top player. If it does, it is nothing but a coincidence. It randomly picks a player, usually one that is dead. Nothing to do with score whatsoever.
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I assumed that since whenever I get on a role, I tend to get shifted over.
The balancer does not take the top player. If it does, it is nothing but a coincidence. It randomly picks a player, usually one that is dead. Nothing to do with score whatsoever.
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I assumed that since whenever I get on a role, I tend to get shifted over.
Shortbus
Professional Cocksucker
[quote1269551013=Doolox]
LB...It does shave the team with more players from the top, taking the higher scoring players first. I see what you mean tho when the teams are even player count wise. A mod factoring KPD would be great after 3-4 rounds.
I just don't see this "auto-join" necessity being an effective means to preventing team stacking. I usually join a team with players I usually chat with or the side I have a preference for, which I'm sure we all do. That is why I still find this auto-join is kind of a nuisance. If one map has everyone wanting to be CT, like Cbble, then why not just throw it out of rotation in favor of a more neutral map? My point, it f@cks with the social aspects of the server.
The way the auto-join is setup, it also gives 'admin' players an advantage. They can go to Spec & back as many times as they like. Therefore they can join a team, make a bet, join spec, join a team & have more cash than the 'laymen' player who cannot take advantage of that anymore. If you're going to implement it fairly, make it apply to all.
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What he said.
LB...It does shave the team with more players from the top, taking the higher scoring players first. I see what you mean tho when the teams are even player count wise. A mod factoring KPD would be great after 3-4 rounds.
I just don't see this "auto-join" necessity being an effective means to preventing team stacking. I usually join a team with players I usually chat with or the side I have a preference for, which I'm sure we all do. That is why I still find this auto-join is kind of a nuisance. If one map has everyone wanting to be CT, like Cbble, then why not just throw it out of rotation in favor of a more neutral map? My point, it f@cks with the social aspects of the server.
The way the auto-join is setup, it also gives 'admin' players an advantage. They can go to Spec & back as many times as they like. Therefore they can join a team, make a bet, join spec, join a team & have more cash than the 'laymen' player who cannot take advantage of that anymore. If you're going to implement it fairly, make it apply to all.
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What he said.
[quote1269553570=Shortbus]
[quote1269551013=Doolox]
LB...It does shave the team with more players from the top, taking the higher scoring players first. I see what you mean tho when the teams are even player count wise. A mod factoring KPD would be great after 3-4 rounds.
I just don't see this "auto-join" necessity being an effective means to preventing team stacking. I usually join a team with players I usually chat with or the side I have a preference for, which I'm sure we all do. That is why I still find this auto-join is kind of a nuisance. If one map has everyone wanting to be CT, like Cbble, then why not just throw it out of rotation in favor of a more neutral map? My point, it f@cks with the social aspects of the server.
The way the auto-join is setup, it also gives 'admin' players an advantage. They can go to Spec & back as many times as they like. Therefore they can join a team, make a bet, join spec, join a team & have more cash than the 'laymen' player who cannot take advantage of that anymore. If you're going to implement it fairly, make it apply to all.
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What he said.
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Not true. I put enough hours on the server and auto balance is a joke right now. As for teams, I have seen it enough times where the ct's have 2 to 3 guys in 3.0 KPD, 2 to 3 guys in 2.0 KPD and all the opposing side are not breaking 1.0 KPD. I have been both on winning and losing side, and honestly it's why I had brought up this issue when I first noticed this. Enough people auto assign, don't like the side they got auto assigned to and are switching teams right away. Not many admins/TD switch sides to even things up. Maybe that can be part of the solution, switch yourself instead of switching someone else first.
Lead by example as Leroy said, I know some do already so calm your ass dooooowwwwn!
[quote1269551013=Doolox]
LB...It does shave the team with more players from the top, taking the higher scoring players first. I see what you mean tho when the teams are even player count wise. A mod factoring KPD would be great after 3-4 rounds.
I just don't see this "auto-join" necessity being an effective means to preventing team stacking. I usually join a team with players I usually chat with or the side I have a preference for, which I'm sure we all do. That is why I still find this auto-join is kind of a nuisance. If one map has everyone wanting to be CT, like Cbble, then why not just throw it out of rotation in favor of a more neutral map? My point, it f@cks with the social aspects of the server.
The way the auto-join is setup, it also gives 'admin' players an advantage. They can go to Spec & back as many times as they like. Therefore they can join a team, make a bet, join spec, join a team & have more cash than the 'laymen' player who cannot take advantage of that anymore. If you're going to implement it fairly, make it apply to all.
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What he said.
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Not true. I put enough hours on the server and auto balance is a joke right now. As for teams, I have seen it enough times where the ct's have 2 to 3 guys in 3.0 KPD, 2 to 3 guys in 2.0 KPD and all the opposing side are not breaking 1.0 KPD. I have been both on winning and losing side, and honestly it's why I had brought up this issue when I first noticed this. Enough people auto assign, don't like the side they got auto assigned to and are switching teams right away. Not many admins/TD switch sides to even things up. Maybe that can be part of the solution, switch yourself instead of switching someone else first.
Lead by example as Leroy said, I know some do already so calm your ass dooooowwwwn!
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