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I'm disappointed...

Steve

TD Admin | Bacon
Slawek, I am sorry for my comments. The last rhing i want to do is ruin your time on darkly. You are right that comments like that have no place on our game server.
 

amanshotme

TD Member
holy fuck, steve apologized.

the end is nigh mother fuckers.

BJ, make your way out west and we'll survive mother fucker, STAY ALIVE, avoid the bandits and don't wear red clothes you newb. also, avoid post offices. And walmarts.

:dontwanttofeel:


And stick with Kevin Costner, he knows a few things about the apocalypse...
 

Brades

Bailer
Staff member
You have to understand I come from a place where you never see people wearing turbans. Minnesota has a large muslim population, but traditional garbs are rarely seen. Using the two mens turbans as a descriptive for them as people, was not meant to be HATEFUL. And to be fair, REGARDLESS OF WHO WAS IN THAT BATHROOM IT WAS FILTHY(I am sure everyone contributes to that, not just one religion or race) hence why the whole situation.


Being incredibly uncomfortable with a new situation/environment/culture does not = hate.

Slawek, I understand your point and agree it was tasteless what I said, I should have picked my words more carefully. However don't make it out like I was going off on some muslim racist rant, because I wasn't. Merely recounting YYZ's FILTHY conditions, and my surprise at seeing turbans so frequently in Canada. Being uncomfortable with new cultural experiences =/= being a racist.


This is why Toronto Island Airport tried to ban cabbies from using the washrooms... they shit and piss on the floor like they do in their shithole stank ass country. http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...rs_raise_stink_at_toronto_island_airport.html
 

Pyro

TD Admin
This is why Toronto Island Airport tried to ban cabbies from using the washrooms... they shit and piss on the floor like they do in their shithole stank ass country. http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...rs_raise_stink_at_toronto_island_airport.html

LMAO that article is hilarious. It's only slightly racist, though.

Slawek, you should post threads like this in the "Serious F'n Business" forum or else you will get trolls. We welcome trolling at Darkly, provided that they stay out Serious F'n Business and Ban threads. Also, you can call TD members out, we don't mind.
 

OG buckshot jr

TD Admin
holy fuck, steve apologized.

the end is nigh mother fuckers.

BJ, make your way out west and we'll survive mother fucker, STAY ALIVE, avoid the bandits and don't wear red clothes you newb. also, avoid post offices. And walmarts.

:dontwanttofeel:

LOOOOOOOOL

[Post below not directed at Slawek, just a general rant...]
In all honesty, I can understand where Slawek is coming from, however maybe people in Slawek's boots have not been around long enough, or talk to anyone often? As friends, and fellow long-time gamers, I have no problem when someone calls me a honkey, or when the entire world calls Brains a fag (so anti-gay remarks are ok, but racism isn't? - just a comment in general, not to folks relevant to this specific post by Slawek), or when sooooo many people call LB 'a paki'. My point here is this: Because we've all known eachother for so long, it's very hard to change ways of joking with eachother when there's other people around who are new here and are not used to it.

That being said, there's a difference between someone poking fun with someone they know and flat-out racism. We have admins for the latter. For the first half, I'm not really sorry to say - lighten up! This is online gaming, and you'll hear even far worse in a 12-year old server of Halo players.

Between all of the anti-gay, anti-semetic, anti-racism, anti-sexism.. the list goes on, one can ban every single person on these forums and most probably our server. It's a game, shoot the shit, escape reality and know when shit is serious or not.
 

Slawek

TD Admin
I just wanted to touch back to this topic and give an update of sorts, if you will...

As you have likely seen I have stepped up my presence on the forums and really gotten to know the culture here at TD. Seeing more and more TD players on the Toronto server has been great to get to know you guys and I can say that Buckshot Jr was 100% right in his post. I get it now, I see how you guys mingle and chat and just fuck around. It's the exact same thing as with my friends back home, if someone from the outside listened in to how we talk to each other they would be like WTF are these guys on and likely think we were dicks.

I wanted to say thanks to everyone who took my post serious and for the comments, and Steve, I see now 100% that there was absolutely no racist intent or anything like that. I can see now that if anyone on the server had that intent *ANY* admin, including you, would deal with them appropriately. Having you TD old schoolers finally converting to CS GO has given me a real chance to get to know the culture here and I really enjoy it. Not knowing that this is how you guys shoot the shit early on had me take your comments to heart, I guess due to personal experiences directed at my wife over the years, so I took it a little too seriously. So my apologies to you too Steve, I did not understand the tight friendships you guys have with each other. Thanks Buckshot for your post, you really hit the nail on the head.

Cheers guys, see you in the server...
 

MetalLobster

TD Admin
At my current job at an assembly line in Kitchener, I'm one of two Asians among forty or so white people, so I experience what you've spoken out against in your OP IRL fairly often and like OJ being called a honkey sometimes, I don't mind either with the dog-eating, bad driving jokes. Kitchener, if you don't know, is predominantly white and the Kitchener - Waterloo, as I heard, has a racism issue. There is a difference between someone who is joking and being racist, and that's if they acknowledged your position against their comment when you point it out.

Since my job is the modern day sailor boat and taking my attention away for more ten seconds fucks me up, I let my co-workers know if they are going to far by telling them to STFU, then proceed to call them an asshole or fucker or whatever creative name I can make up. Now, I'm not saying this is how anyone else should do it and I most certainly do not carry this over, but if someone were to ask "How should I best speak out against an issue I strongly disagree with and believe should be stopped?", I would point to your OP. Huge respect for not only speaking out in a civil, mature and thorough manner, but for listening to the opposing party as well. We need more of this, everywhere.

You've asked the admins to step up and I'm sure many of us well see to it. I know I will.
 

Slawek

TD Admin
Thanks MetalLobster...

On a side note, I grew up in Kitchener, lived there for over 25 years...
 

Slawek

TD Admin
Ahh. Do you notice see a racism problem in KW? I've only worked at TMMC for three years and lived there for a bit.

Honestly, no different than anywhere else I've lived in Ontario. The majority of my friends were a mix of white and indian cultures tho, I only had a few close asian friends so I can't speak for that particular culture.

It's hard when you're not in someone elses shoes to relate, I can only go by what I see first hand.
 

MetalLobster

TD Admin
Honestly, no different than anywhere else I've lived in Ontario. The majority of my friends were a mix of white and indian cultures tho, I only had a few close asian friends so I can't speak for that particular culture.

It's hard when you're not in someone elses shoes to relate, I can only go by what I see first hand.

Yeah, I figured that was the case since I didn't notice anything different either when I lived there. Then again, I didn't live there for long...
 

Thanatos

TD Member
Kitchener is a predominantly German heritage city that used to be called Berlin so take that as you will.

I grew up in Trenton, ON little piddly town of 16000 white people, there were literally only a couple Asian families and one African-American family that moved there when I was like 16. I didn't meet brown people until I moved to Oakville when I was 23. I look back now at a lot of people I know in Trenton and they're not racist by hatred or any such stupidity that white is right, but it's by ignorance and a lack of cultural understanding. Everything they know they learned from TV and stereotypes because they've never met other cultures. I'm not trying to make excuses but some places just be plain redneck.
 

Slawek

TD Admin
Kitchener is a predominantly German heritage city that used to be called Berlin so take that as you will.

I grew up in Trenton, ON little piddly town of 16000 white people, there were literally only a couple Asian families and one African-American family that moved there when I was like 16. I didn't meet brown people until I moved to Oakville when I was 23. I look back now at a lot of people I know in Trenton and they're not racist by hatred or any such stupidity that white is right, but it's by ignorance and a lack of cultural understanding. Everything they know they learned from TV and stereotypes because they've never met other cultures. I'm not trying to make excuses but some places just be plain redneck.
Yep. Pretty much.

Trenton eh... ThanaTOSS eh... maud eh...
 
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