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good bye CS

iCe

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Shotgun Jesus

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iCe

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eat a dick!
 

68cal

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BC:2 is pretty damn sweet, but I will always love playing css.


u c I usually play for a couple months, then stop for a couple months. every time I come back its just as fun as before. The thing i lvoe about css is how clean and simple it is.

BC:2 is gritty, which allows for better cinematic quality
 

Steve

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u c I usually play for a couple months, then stop for a couple months. every time I come back its just as fun as before. The thing i lvoe about css is how clean and simple it is.


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Same. I quit for a period of time, and decide to reinstall, and surprise-surprise its as boring as before.
 
the fundamental difference between CS and pretty much all newer shooters is that CS is round-based tactical and the other games are huge war arenas. CS is like the chess of shooters. it looks simple, but there's more strategizing and tactics going on behind the scenes. basically, easy to learn but hard to master all the subtleties.

the other good thing about CS is that it can be played with or without comms. in a huge war-arena style game, having the whole team actively communicating is mandatory for true success (everything else is just luck) because it's impossible to keep track of ALL the shit going on and be cohesive without comms.

in CS, you can just consult the radar to see where your teammates fell and use that to deduce which paths the enemy might have taken. then it comes down to a battle of wits and a quick showdown instead of a staminafest like the push-based big war shooters.

i've been playing CS for 10 years too and yeah i don't feel like playing it all the time like i used to but there's still an elegance about it that all these big-war, cutting-edge environment shooters just can't capture.
 

iSeize

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CS:S is cold and calculated. its an unreal atmosphere which has ultimately been broken by valve thanks to this faggot update. With CS:S there is no unlocking of weapons are any of that bullshit, everyone is on an even playing field, and the only thing that matters is skill.

At the end of the day, the only deciding factor that keeps me coming back for more is the Knife. Having knife as an alt fire is just sooo ridiculous and way too simple, yet BC2 has even managed to fuck it up.

CS:S= Raw and Simple FPS. Zero Bullshit.
BC2: Full of Fancy shit, allows tons of faggotry.

Of course there is some stuff that is a necessity when it comes to the games and its play style, if you Played CS on a map as big as a BC2 map, it would be awful. too much running, etc.

BC2 can make use of large maps because there ARE vehicles, gravity affects bullets and whatnot. Imagine having vehicles and bullet drop on CS sized maps. You wouldnt be able to get a Tank out of spawn and nobody would notice bullet drop because they are so close.

*waits for Clash to retort, even though he complains at BC2 more then i do*
 

LT_Clash

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BC2 is slightly less bulshit than CSS. i dont mean gameplay and mechanics you cant even compare them. BC2 is more modern with all the latest shit that shooters need to be competitive. if someone pitched CS today to a board of some game company the conversation would go something like this

seller "well its a simple shooter where you earn money by killing and by guns."

marketing fuckheads " ok whats the hook"

seller "well it works"

marketers "next"

CSS dosnt look good and wouldnt sell to todays consol faggotry but its too old for me and all i see anymore are the flaws. i will never say CSS isnt good and BC2 isnt as good of a game. just slightly less bulshit happens.
 

Fork Included

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exactly

after 10 years i'm done learning the stupid thing, when you start getting head shots pre-shooting boxes because people tend to hide behind them, it stops being fun

when you top the score board without even realizing it because you were talking on the phone the whole time, its time for a new game

and BC2 is that game

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the fundamental difference between CS and pretty much all newer shooters is that CS is round-based tactical and the other games are huge war arenas. CS is like the chess of shooters. it looks simple, but there's more strategizing and tactics going on behind the scenes. basically, easy to learn but hard to master all the subtleties.

the other good thing about CS is that it can be played with or without comms. in a huge war-arena style game, having the whole team actively communicating is mandatory for true success (everything else is just luck) because it's impossible to keep track of ALL the shit going on and be cohesive without comms.

in CS, you can just consult the radar to see where your teammates fell and use that to deduce which paths the enemy might have taken. then it comes down to a battle of wits and a quick showdown instead of a staminafest like the push-based big war shooters.

i've been playing CS for 10 years too and yeah i don't feel like playing it all the time like i used to but there's still an elegance about it that all these big-war, cutting-edge environment shooters just can't capture.
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BC2 is slightly less bulshit than CSS. i dont mean gameplay and mechanics you cant even compare them. BC2 is more modern with all the latest shit that shooters need to be competitive. if someone pitched CS today to a board of some game company the conversation would go something like this

seller "well its a simple shooter where you earn money by killing and by guns."

marketing fuckheads " ok whats the hook"

seller "well it works"

marketers "next"

CSS dosnt look good and wouldnt sell to todays consol faggotry but its too old for me and all i see anymore are the flaws. i will never say CSS isnt good and BC2 isnt as good of a game. just slightly less bulshit happens.
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You can call BC2 "Modern" and rag on CSS all you like but CS has been around since BEFORE battlefield, and to this day defines "competitive shooter." Go to any lan and you're likely to find a CS tournament. Sure it has a simple premise, the other guys are bad you need to kill them, kills = money, money = guns, but it's a tried and true formula. I personally prefer it over all those bullshit perks and having to "unlock" guns. CS puts everyone on a level playing field, everything is available to you the only thing that matters is how much in game money you have/are willing to spend. CS has been around for over a decade now and still maintains a large community.

If you only care about graphics then you're doomed to a horrible and unfulfillable game life. CSS still sells in today's market, I can name off 3 people, who I know in person, who recently bought it. Besides I wouldn't depend on a bunch of "gamers" who go out and buy every iteration of HALO and MW to tell me what a "good" game is anyways :P

I'll agree that a lot of bullshit happens, CS is one of those games that IMO fits between Unreal and Red Orchestra type shooters. It's frantic, yet it requires teamwork and strategy. I've always had this hate/love relationship with CS, some rounds I'll be glad I can take several rounds to various parts of my body and still play, whilst other rounds I'll rage about how an AK47 round at point blank would go through body armor. CS is it's own type of game that requires a lot of play time to get used to, much less to be decent at.


That's just my opinion though :3
 

LT_Clash

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did you even read my post? my closeing statment is CSS is a better game but i like BC2 better...
"i will never say CSS isnt good and BC2 isnt as good of a game. just slightly less bulshit happens."

note the bc2 isnt as good section...

and just to let you know as bad as it is gamers dont move the market any more its soccermoms buying shit for there 12yearolds and thats what the game companys are marketing too. true gamers the ones like us who would join a comunity and get offended when a new update comes out are not the majority in this industry. that was my point not hur durr halo is like the best evaa.
 

Shortbus

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its soccermoms buying shit for there 12yearolds and thats what the game companys are marketing too.
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Oh yah?
 
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