GAS PRICES
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Oil companys always increase the price just before every holiday to gouge those that are traveling. Should the Liberal government cap gas prices?
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No, oil prices are a refelction on the Canadian economy as a whole. And our government is PC not liberal.
Oil companys always increase the price just before every holiday to gouge those that are traveling. Should the Liberal government cap gas prices?
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No, oil prices are a refelction on the Canadian economy as a whole. And our government is PC not liberal.
OG buckshot jr
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They can't cap shit as they always need to make money. So the Arabs could charge the Canadian gov't $100/barrel, but a cap would ensure the gov't could only charge $80/barrel??? They'd lose money man, and our gov't, along with any other gov't in the world, LOVES money...
if the gov't wanted to do something they could easily do so by reducing the tax. next time you buy some peep how much of that isn't even paying for the product. this is why a further carbon tax is so fucking outrageous.
easiest way to fight back is to just use less petrol. if there's less demand then they're going to be forced to cut prices. europe caught onto that long ago by taxing the shit out of it and having the brains to use turbocharged 4cyl engines in the place of V8s.
i swapped cars not too long ago from a 2.4L auto sedan to a 1.6L manual hatch and the amount of fuel saved is significant. having a light car with a manual tranny is also significant because i don't need to push it over 3000rpm on the street to make it move well, and in hilly areas i can drop that shit into neutral and be cruising along at idle. hell most of the time i break the speed limit it's in idle!
or if you have an iphone i bet you could peep http://www.torontogasprices.com/ constantly
easiest way to fight back is to just use less petrol. if there's less demand then they're going to be forced to cut prices. europe caught onto that long ago by taxing the shit out of it and having the brains to use turbocharged 4cyl engines in the place of V8s.
i swapped cars not too long ago from a 2.4L auto sedan to a 1.6L manual hatch and the amount of fuel saved is significant. having a light car with a manual tranny is also significant because i don't need to push it over 3000rpm on the street to make it move well, and in hilly areas i can drop that shit into neutral and be cruising along at idle. hell most of the time i break the speed limit it's in idle!
or if you have an iphone i bet you could peep http://www.torontogasprices.com/ constantly
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nothing we can do, so i just accept it as a fact of life.
gas prices are like weather, can do shit about it.
which brings me to another point, i used to do this back in the day: print out random license plates, stick em on your car, full up and drive away with the middle finger in the air .. make 2 turns and remove fake plates
gas prices are like weather, can do shit about it.
which brings me to another point, i used to do this back in the day: print out random license plates, stick em on your car, full up and drive away with the middle finger in the air .. make 2 turns and remove fake plates
Hinouchi
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well for sure it's less demanding on the oil nowadays, but oil company cut down on production to keep up with the price, if government cut down on tax, less income for them, and they don't like that.
1 year ago price is like what? $140/barrel and they were pricing it at $1.41/liter? and they're still making millions, now price is like $60/barrel 0.97/liter. those mother fucker...
1 year ago price is like what? $140/barrel and they were pricing it at $1.41/liter? and they're still making millions, now price is like $60/barrel 0.97/liter. those mother fucker...
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[quote1242928214=S@lv_dor]
if the gov't wanted to do something they could easily do so by reducing the tax. next time you buy some peep how much of that isn't even paying for the product. this is why a further carbon tax is so fucking outrageous.
easiest way to fight back is to just use less petrol. if there's less demand then they're going to be forced to cut prices. europe caught onto that long ago by taxing the shit out of it and having the brains to use turbocharged 4cyl engines in the place of V8s.
i swapped cars not too long ago from a 2.4L auto sedan to a 1.6L manual hatch and the amount of fuel saved is significant. having a light car with a manual tranny is also significant because i don't need to push it over 3000rpm on the street to make it move well, and in hilly areas i can drop that shit into neutral and be cruising along at idle. hell most of the time i break the speed limit it's in idle!
or if you have an iphone i bet you could peep http://www.torontogasprices.com/ constantly
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1. engine load is a hidden gas consumer, that 1.6 liter goes rich when you step on the gas off gear or try to get up a hill, larger displacement engines typically operate overall on lower rpm's, and their load is always less because they generate more torque.
i dont know what car you had, and what car you got, but no 1.6 powered car that i have ever driven is worth driving below 3000 rpm, you might as well walk. Likewise large displacement cars have much better response, and work better with longer gears, because their powerband comes on sooner.
2. coasting in neutral consumes fuel, coasting in gear with your foot off the gas consumes zero fuel (untill you drop lower than 1400~1600 rpm depending on vehicle)
if the gov't wanted to do something they could easily do so by reducing the tax. next time you buy some peep how much of that isn't even paying for the product. this is why a further carbon tax is so fucking outrageous.
easiest way to fight back is to just use less petrol. if there's less demand then they're going to be forced to cut prices. europe caught onto that long ago by taxing the shit out of it and having the brains to use turbocharged 4cyl engines in the place of V8s.
i swapped cars not too long ago from a 2.4L auto sedan to a 1.6L manual hatch and the amount of fuel saved is significant. having a light car with a manual tranny is also significant because i don't need to push it over 3000rpm on the street to make it move well, and in hilly areas i can drop that shit into neutral and be cruising along at idle. hell most of the time i break the speed limit it's in idle!
or if you have an iphone i bet you could peep http://www.torontogasprices.com/ constantly
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1. engine load is a hidden gas consumer, that 1.6 liter goes rich when you step on the gas off gear or try to get up a hill, larger displacement engines typically operate overall on lower rpm's, and their load is always less because they generate more torque.
i dont know what car you had, and what car you got, but no 1.6 powered car that i have ever driven is worth driving below 3000 rpm, you might as well walk. Likewise large displacement cars have much better response, and work better with longer gears, because their powerband comes on sooner.
2. coasting in neutral consumes fuel, coasting in gear with your foot off the gas consumes zero fuel (untill you drop lower than 1400~1600 rpm depending on vehicle)
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your whiskey bottle cant move 2500 pounds of metal, can it now?
retard
shut up NOW.
retard
shut up NOW.
Yes 40% of our cost is Fed and Prov taxes, but near 48% is market price of crude oil. Does oil really need to still be traded on the open market like it was the year 1920? Just like Unions, open market trading of crude oil commodities should be considered a thing of the past.
A global world government(s) standard should be set on the cost of oil/barrel, using labour costs, amount of oil left, etc. In other words when do we declare oil (and thus gasoline), an essential commodity (service) to world economies and human development? However if I use that argument I'll have to allow that Water is also an essential commodity (service) and thus Canada would have to share it's water resources with the rest of the world under a similar global cost structure.
I'll point out that a lot of "social" services, like Police, Fire, Hospital and others are deemed "essential services" by a lot of Governments around the world and are thus banned from strikes and other work slow downs, however NO commodities (that I know of) have been deemed thus so yet anywhere.
Maybe it's time.
Just a thought.
Edit: typos.
A global world government(s) standard should be set on the cost of oil/barrel, using labour costs, amount of oil left, etc. In other words when do we declare oil (and thus gasoline), an essential commodity (service) to world economies and human development? However if I use that argument I'll have to allow that Water is also an essential commodity (service) and thus Canada would have to share it's water resources with the rest of the world under a similar global cost structure.
I'll point out that a lot of "social" services, like Police, Fire, Hospital and others are deemed "essential services" by a lot of Governments around the world and are thus banned from strikes and other work slow downs, however NO commodities (that I know of) have been deemed thus so yet anywhere.
Maybe it's time.
Just a thought.
Edit: typos.
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your whiskey bottle cant move 2500 pounds of metal, can it now?
retard
shut up NOW.
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if i drink 1/4 of that bottle, i can push a tank.
i can push a ...3000+ lb audi and then quickly run and rump into the front seat and start the bitch without any booze.
your whiskey bottle cant move 2500 pounds of metal, can it now?
retard
shut up NOW.
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if i drink 1/4 of that bottle, i can push a tank.
i can push a ...3000+ lb audi and then quickly run and rump into the front seat and start the bitch without any booze.
OG buckshot jr
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Extremely well said Kirock.
glock
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It's just not gasoline demand that drives oil prices. Everything around you ,everything you use is made from/with or by oil.
Demand for oil will only increase as world population increases. So enjoy while the supply lasts.
Buy some oil stock to take the edge off of gasoline price increases.
Demand for oil will only increase as world population increases. So enjoy while the supply lasts.
Buy some oil stock to take the edge off of gasoline price increases.
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[quote1242993458=S@lv_dor]
2300 and getting lighter :) fork are you a honda feller? do tell! i have a D engine not a B so the rod/stroke is low like american engines and puts out matching tq per cc
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im just a car guy
at some point i had a honda, right now i have a vw, currently in the market for a 99-00 Subaru RS Coupe.
i read alot of car related technical material, also, as i posted elsewhere (and 35mm can confirm), i race cars on a circuit track.
Also had the privilege to drive a Lotus Elise balls out on 3 separate racetracks :) :)
2300 and getting lighter :) fork are you a honda feller? do tell! i have a D engine not a B so the rod/stroke is low like american engines and puts out matching tq per cc
[/quote1242993458]
im just a car guy
at some point i had a honda, right now i have a vw, currently in the market for a 99-00 Subaru RS Coupe.
i read alot of car related technical material, also, as i posted elsewhere (and 35mm can confirm), i race cars on a circuit track.
Also had the privilege to drive a Lotus Elise balls out on 3 separate racetracks :) :)
td|35mm
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[quote1242999067=Kirock]
Yes 40% of our cost is Fed and Prov taxes, but near 48% is market price of crude oil. Does oil really need to still be traded on the open market like it was the year 1920? Just like Unions, open market trading of crude oil commodities should be considered a thing of the past.
A global world government(s) standard should be set on the cost of oil/barrel, using labour costs, amount of oil left, etc. In other words when do we declare oil (and thus gasoline), an essential commodity (service) to world economies and human development? However if I use that argument I'll have to allow that Water is also an essential commodity (service) and thus Canada would have to share it's water resources with the rest of the world under a similar global cost structure.
I'll point out that a lot of "social" services, like Police, Fire, Hospital and others are deemed "essential services" by a lot of Governments around the world and are thus banned from strikes and other work slow downs, however NO commodities (that I know of) have been deemed thus so yet anywhere.
Maybe it's time.
Just a thought.
Edit: typos.
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And that would happen in a sort-of-perfect world ...
Yes 40% of our cost is Fed and Prov taxes, but near 48% is market price of crude oil. Does oil really need to still be traded on the open market like it was the year 1920? Just like Unions, open market trading of crude oil commodities should be considered a thing of the past.
A global world government(s) standard should be set on the cost of oil/barrel, using labour costs, amount of oil left, etc. In other words when do we declare oil (and thus gasoline), an essential commodity (service) to world economies and human development? However if I use that argument I'll have to allow that Water is also an essential commodity (service) and thus Canada would have to share it's water resources with the rest of the world under a similar global cost structure.
I'll point out that a lot of "social" services, like Police, Fire, Hospital and others are deemed "essential services" by a lot of Governments around the world and are thus banned from strikes and other work slow downs, however NO commodities (that I know of) have been deemed thus so yet anywhere.
Maybe it's time.
Just a thought.
Edit: typos.
[/quote1242999067]
And that would happen in a sort-of-perfect world ...
td|35mm
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[quote1242993458=S@lv_dor]
2300 and getting lighter :) fork are you a honda feller? do tell! i have a D engine not a B so the rod/stroke is low like american engines and puts out matching tq per cc
[/quote1242993458]
im just a car guy
at some point i had a honda, right now i have a vw, currently in the market for a 99-00 Subaru RS Coupe.
i read alot of car related technical material, also, as i posted elsewhere (and 35mm can confirm), i race cars on a circuit track.
Also had the privilege to drive a Lotus Elise balls out on 3 separate racetracks :) :)
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What happend with the Evo? :).
[quote1242993458=S@lv_dor]
2300 and getting lighter :) fork are you a honda feller? do tell! i have a D engine not a B so the rod/stroke is low like american engines and puts out matching tq per cc
[/quote1242993458]
im just a car guy
at some point i had a honda, right now i have a vw, currently in the market for a 99-00 Subaru RS Coupe.
i read alot of car related technical material, also, as i posted elsewhere (and 35mm can confirm), i race cars on a circuit track.
Also had the privilege to drive a Lotus Elise balls out on 3 separate racetracks :) :)
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What happend with the Evo? :).
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