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I never went to College, yet I'm being payed rather handsomely.

I saw an advertisement down here saying that undergraduates and above are not able to find jobs due to having...college education. Maybe because the skill brings you more pay, something employers are veering against?

+1 to awyeah for making the Spellchecker look stupid.
 

Cock

Cockilicious
Staff member
@salvador
Small Family run businesses are not going to concidre hireing outside of the family.
I'm talking more about jobs that everyone should have a fair chance at but don't.

I never went to Collage, yet I'm being payed rather handsomely.
was your near death experance worth the extra money?
Security jobs allways come with extra $$$ because of the inherent risk involved.
 

dead mike

TD Member, Legend, Puncher of Faces, Chatbox King
government jobs eh

it fuckin seems like everyone's a Murphy in the fun jobs
 

iCe

TD Admin
Jakk I hope thats not a serious comment b/c that would confirm you are dumber than brains.
 

adam::davis

2011 Troll of the Year
Jakk I hope thats not a serious comment b/c that would confirm you are dumber than brains.

lols. I would agree - it's certainly not a case of employers not wanting to hire college graduates because their 'qualifications' demand higher pay
 

iac

Future Ban List Occupant
lol at cock telling Sal to move to North Korea.. haha you mean bastard
 
@salvador
Small Family run businesses are not going to concidre hireing outside of the family.
I'm talking more about jobs that everyone should have a fair chance at but don't.


was your near death experance worth the extra money?
Security jobs allways come with extra $$$ because of the inherent risk involved.
That was unfortunate, and not fun.

I could move up, or as we say, down the inverted pyramid, and not have to deal with those. @_@

Who even gives fair chances with jobs in this day and age? There's so many rumors, such as HR only looking for keywords in a resume, or not using it at all and instead, seeing what the Social Media says, if they find any.

government jobs eh

it fuckin seems like everyone's a Murphy in the fun jobs
Murphy's Law?

Jakk I hope thats not a serious comment b/c that would confirm you are dumber than brains.
Just because I don't want to spend money learning about something that I could pick up and be getting payed for doing/learning it? Who's the more idiotic here?
lols. I would agree - it's certainly not a case of employers not wanting to hire college graduates because their 'qualifications' demand higher pay
Remember where I am for the next few months. Down here, its a whole different story.
is a "collage" one of those picture cut out glue projects? Haha
No that would be Pre-Kindergarden. Oh wait, you're being sarcastic, haha. Wait a sec...shit, stupid autocheck. -_-
 

adam::davis

2011 Troll of the Year
Remember where I am for the next few months. Down here, its a whole different story.

And where are you? Sorry, I don't follow your response. :-/ All I know is I don't hear many stories from college graduates not finding work because their degree makes them overqualified. From my own personal experience with the it seems that a more popular idea is that a Bachelors degree is no longer enough and that one should complete a Master's program as well if they really want to be considered for jobs in their field. Of course with higher education a lot of it really depends on what your major was - the health of the job market varies from field to field
 
And where are you? Sorry, I don't follow your response. :-/ All I know is you don't hear many stories from college graduates not finding work because their degree makes them overqualified. From my own personal experience with the it seems that a more popular idea is that a Bachelors degree is no longer enough and that one should complete a Master's program as well if they really want to be considered for jobs in their field. Of course with higher education a lot of it really depends on what your major was - the health of the job market varies from field to field

In the states, specifically, Texas. Not back at home I don't but that's the buzz and word of mouth here and around, I'll try to link some stories if I can remember what channel broadcasted them but it looks like someone with a High School Diploma, or equivalent grade school, has a better chance at finding a job than someone without it. This is the big majority that are not already planning to enlist in lets say...Law Enforcement, Medical, or Legal.

Of course, then there's the ones that state the same, which I have to agree partly, that a anything below a Master's is unacceptable. Regardless, I find it to be little less than mere bullshit to feed you to prevent you from crying about the pay. (Or noticing it)
 

iCe

TD Admin
Jakk maybe I missed this you do security/cop...

FYI- Dumbest people/disrespectful/ignorant people on the plant. They get a little power and become douchebags.

Now, You dont want to pay to learn, you would rather learn by "doing". Thats your perogative, but don't knock something you do not know. I am a trader for one of the largest banks in the world. YOU could NOT do my job by "doing". My education makes me "more powerful than you". If the market was better every college grad (besides the useless ones like social services/etc...) would be making way more than your "doing" Job.

Point= Education makes you stronger/better than the ones that think its "useless".
 

adam::davis

2011 Troll of the Year
In the states, specifically, Texas. Not back at home I don't but that's the buzz and word of mouth here and around, I'll try to link some stories if I can remember what channel broadcasted them but it looks like someone with a High School Diploma, or equivalent grade school, has a better chance at finding a job than someone without it. This is the big majority that are not already planning to enlist in lets say...Law Enforcement, Medical, or Legal.

Of course, then there's the ones that state the same, which I have to agree partly, that a anything below a Master's is unacceptable. Regardless, I find it to be little less than mere bullshit to feed you to prevent you from crying about the pay. (Or noticing it)

Nod. Obviously it will vary from field to field and then from state to state and city to city. I can't speak about any universal truths regarding reasons for unemployment but generally a college education isn't a bad thing for someone to have before heading off into the work force looking for a career and I am highly skeptical that too much education is the root of the problems college graduates are having finding work.




You think it's ok to give a 75% increase in tuition?

A bit of a zombie reply but this sort of increase is completely unacceptable but sadly is also characteristic of the way higher education is run. More often than not universities are being operated not as if they were centers of higher learning whose goals is to engage and enlighten students but instead operate more like some sort of gross factory assembly line where students are harvested for cash.
 

Steve

TD Admin | Bacon
Education is not the problem, population is. Its the problem of all of our problems.

We all live to long and work to long. Only death with bring job openings, not lies and promises of Republicans and Democrats.

As dark and sad as that is, it is the truth.
 

Steve

TD Admin | Bacon
A bit of a zombie reply but this sort of increase is completely unacceptable but sadly is also characteristic of the way higher education is run. More often than not universities are being operated not as if they were centers of higher learning whose goals is to engage and enlighten students but instead operate more like some sort of gross factory assembly line where students are harvested for cash.

Case and point: university major credits expire four years after completion at my school. What reason is there for this other than to take more money.


They raise our tuition, and then precede to hire dim wits who shouldn't teach 2nd grade let alone university classes. These dim wits are of course willing to teach for much less than real professors.

I actually have decided to stall my higher education til a time I know my money won't be wasted(I am still to unsure of my career path to want to fork out the remaining dough for my current field). In the mean time I will strike out with my little AA and Associates of Science and hope that employers are willing to hire me on with less education because I will ask for less money.
 

thomastronics

TD Member
Population, win
Saturation, win
people, lose

I think we need more entrepeneurs. That's the wave of the future. But people now a days see it as need aducation to find. Maybe they should make job!
Turn TD into a business and hire all of our members.
We can have our HQ located at Jane and Finch, Toronto and hire JakSilves as our security guard at $15/Hr.
I think the few dollars over minimum wage justifies the risk.
 

DatGuy

TD Member
Population, win
Saturation, win
people, lose

I think we need more entrepeneurs. That's the wave of the future. But people now a days see it as need aducation to find. Maybe they should make job!
Turn TD into a business and hire all of our members.
We can have our HQ located at Jane and Finch, Toronto and hire JakSilves as our security guard at $15/Hr.
I think the few dollars over minimum wage justifies the risk.

with my education, I demand at least $40-50/hr
 
Jakk maybe I missed this you do security/cop...

FYI- Dumbest people/disrespectful/ignorant people on the plant. They get a little power and become douchebags.

Now, You dont want to pay to learn, you would rather learn by "doing". Thats your perogative, but don't knock something you do not know. I am a trader for one of the largest banks in the world. YOU could NOT do my job by "doing". My education makes me "more powerful than you". If the market was better every college grad (besides the useless ones like social services/etc...) would be making way more than your "doing" Job.

Point= Education makes you stronger/better than the ones that think its "useless".
Ya derps...here's a Wikipedia Article since many of you obviously do not know what I am. .X. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_Prevention And that's such a biased view, my friend works in Sector Security for Simon, he's similar to what I do but is in charge of many buildings. He has a sister that's a Garland Police officer. Never have I ever spoke to them with any of these "signs", that goes for both sides of the law.

Of course not, there's several lines of work that one actually has to study. Of course, it also comes with its own perks, and as always, bad benefits.

Actually, Education is used too much these days for people that like to become know-it-all, and then begin to exert holier-than-thou attitudes. :) What I know is fine by me, I really couldn't care, nor would half the population for what you might know, because that's your tool of the trade. Only real education you need is to be able to read, speak, write, eat, shit, sleep, and breathe. Anything and everything either comes by or is supplementary. I'm talking about post-education, not the basics, yet, its those basics that could set me up for Law Enforcement, which THEN will need me to go study. Why do it now? Why waste time *Which I have none* and money *Which I have none* learning the stuff that I don't need at this time and possibly for the next year or so?

If you're set up that's cool, but don't push the rest of us around for it.
Nod. Obviously it will vary from field to field and then from state to state and city to city. I can't speak about any universal truths regarding reasons for unemployment but generally a college education isn't a bad thing for someone to have before heading off into the work force looking for a career and I am highly skeptical that too much education is the root of the problems college graduates are having finding work.






A bit of a zombie reply but this sort of increase is completely unacceptable but sadly is also characteristic of the way higher education is run. More often than not universities are being operated not as if they were centers of higher learning whose goals is to engage and enlighten students but instead operate more like some sort of gross factory assembly line where students are harvested for cash.
If it was more common through the entire country, this wouldn't be a problem, it sounds skeptical but its obviously there. Besides my job, I know someone who's attending college and trying to learn business skills and more, and what's he doing? He's working minimum at a Wal-Mart. He's probably gonna be there for some time, this is his 2nd year and counting.

Education is not the problem, population is. Its the problem of all of our problems.

We all live to long and work to long. Only death with bring job openings, not lies and promises of Republicans and Democrats.

As dark and sad as that is, it is the truth.
Couldn't agree more, but how to solve the population problem? Maybe regulate when babies are allowed to breed? LOL.

Case and point: university major credits expire four years after completion at my school. What reason is there for this other than to take more money.


They raise our tuition, and then precede to hire dim wits who shouldn't teach 2nd grade let alone university classes. These dim wits are of course willing to teach for much less than real professors.

I actually have decided to stall my higher education til a time I know my money won't be wasted(I am still to unsure of my career path to want to fork out the remaining dough for my current field). In the mean time I will strike out with my little AA and Associates of Science and hope that employers are willing to hire me on with less education because I will ask for less money.
I'm a little confused, when you get these credits, they have an expiration date? That sounds like theft...o_o How much money are you going to end up bleeding for this?
 
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