iCe
TD Admin
This has been discussed and the stacking is being dealt with . Auto join will not work on this server.
forced auto team
- Thread starter STERLINGARCHER
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This has been discussed and the stacking is being dealt with . Auto join will not work on this server.
tytanium
TD Admin
Some of you may not believe me but I auto assign 99% of the time (Except piranesi as that is just a shitty map.) I also select the opposite team to whatever team Peter or Ayanami is playing on when a new map is loaded. I'm sure it's no fun for guys when the top 3 players are on the same team because I find it boring when that does happen. So, I usually switch (yes I do this a lot.) or get switched which is OK by me.
-Tyler
-Tyler
Womb-Raider
I'm New Here
i dont think anyone is suggesting the top10 are the stackers more of the middle of the roaders who use you guys as crutches to camp and pick getting good KDR and not having to be slayed by you beasts.
Fumble
A Little Darkly
I dont think any of the very top players of the server team stack deliberately. However there are a lot of very good players that will purposely join sides with those top players to form a stacked team. I also think team balance is not as big as an issue as it was a month to 2 months ago. There was a long period of time a couple months back where teams were always stacked deliberately and it would be very rare to find balanced teams on TD. However for the sake of keeping this idea alive in case the problem becomes an epidemic again, I have this to say:
It seems like this idea will never come into fruition but I think the reasoning behind it is based on the wrong issue. The focus shifted to how hard it can be to balance due to the inconsistency of players and the ability for any player to catch fire. This is true in the same sense that the toronto raptors (a crappy team) may not lose to miami heat (a stacked/elite team) in a game of basketball every time. However 90% of the time, the stacked team will win. To argue that there is a small chance of victory no matter what is a poor way to look at balance. The main issue that sterlingarcher was trying to bring up was that people are stacking teams deliberately at the start of each map which gives that team an insurmountable advantage. The fact that once in a rare while, a stacked team will struggle to win 16-0 or even lose does not counteract the fact that stacked teams win in ridiculous fashion majority of the time.
Forced auto balance is a good way to ensure regulars on the server are not forming stacked teams deliberately. Good players stacking teams is not as big of an issue today as it was back then but still exists occasionally. You can still join today and for 4 maps in a row, the same top 40 players on the server are on the same side. They will most likely dominate for 4 maps in a row but the logic in this thread seems to indicate that that is ok as long as there was a bit of competition 1/10th of the time during those 4 maps.
It seems like this idea will never come into fruition but I think the reasoning behind it is based on the wrong issue. The focus shifted to how hard it can be to balance due to the inconsistency of players and the ability for any player to catch fire. This is true in the same sense that the toronto raptors (a crappy team) may not lose to miami heat (a stacked/elite team) in a game of basketball every time. However 90% of the time, the stacked team will win. To argue that there is a small chance of victory no matter what is a poor way to look at balance. The main issue that sterlingarcher was trying to bring up was that people are stacking teams deliberately at the start of each map which gives that team an insurmountable advantage. The fact that once in a rare while, a stacked team will struggle to win 16-0 or even lose does not counteract the fact that stacked teams win in ridiculous fashion majority of the time.
Forced auto balance is a good way to ensure regulars on the server are not forming stacked teams deliberately. Good players stacking teams is not as big of an issue today as it was back then but still exists occasionally. You can still join today and for 4 maps in a row, the same top 40 players on the server are on the same side. They will most likely dominate for 4 maps in a row but the logic in this thread seems to indicate that that is ok as long as there was a bit of competition 1/10th of the time during those 4 maps.
iCe
TD Admin
The server is not a competitive server even though there are a lot of good player that play on it. We have one if you would rather play on that. Admins are supposed to deal with stackers, and balance teams. It is not always an easy job, but it gets done.
Again Auto-Join has been discussed and its not going to happen, if Admins are not doing their job they can/will be replaced.
copper
TD Admin
It might help to give a consistently losing team money, but that's probably not possible with server configs, though I don't know for sure. I'm guessing this would have to be scripted. There's nothing more irritating than being on a teams that's being killed and suddenly the other team is buying negevs and all I can afford is an MP7.
BIOP
TD Admin / Rocker of City-Hair
The top players are usually spread out. What makes the team is the mid-level players that talk on mic and call out positions. It's tough to balance because Peter Pan, Ayanami, Tytanium, Flawless rarely define how well the team is doing. If your team is losing and yuo have good players, start working together better. But I always will try to even teams if I see a team of Ayanami, Peter Pan, Archonn, Dank, Stigma for example.
STERLINGARCHER
DARKLY Regular
bump for team stacking pussies
Rams
TD Admin
It will always be stacked.
MetalLobster
TD Admin
The teams will never be perfectly balanced, but there are times when the teams are clearly stacked and admins don't do anything. In fact, sometimes it's the admins stacking. I don't see the harm in having auto-balance, where teams are balanced if they lose too many in a row. The games are a lot more fun when the teams are on even footing.
MetalLobster
TD Admin
Right and will begin to do, but the problem of stalked teams would still exist if they are not admins.
SNITCHES GET STITCHES!
47
TD Admin, Chicken Licker, Top Shelf Sleeper
i gave up on the stacking issue. if admins try to fix it, u just end up switching ppl full-time. and then sometimes you fuck up because the ATB is working parallel to your efforts.
