Demoscene

[$alvador]

If you remember warez and crack intros then you already know about it, these days it's way more advanced than pixel art and I thought this one was particularly cool...

especially considering it's only 64kb in size o_o

 

[OG buckshot jr]

I'm lost, explain yourself. What's this for? Just a cool animation sequence?

 

[Leroy]

The 64k, and 4k demos are _flabbergasting_

I grew up on this stuff, tons of great work came out of these guys

Some other favs:

 

[Leroy]

So BJ, the significance of these demos, is that they are technically, artistic and sonic challenges for the teams that develop them.

They have been around a LONG time, and predate a lot of the 3d games you've played. For example, if memory serves, FC released it's second reality demo in '92, which contains a component of these little engines flying around buildings and such. There was nothing, _NOTHING_ on the market that could even touch that level of 3d rendering back in the day (Descent came out in 95?)

so, as if the challenge wasn't enough, 3d morphing, refraction, raytracing, line drawing algorithms, complex reflections, the next step was to do it in the less code possible, hence the 4k and 64k competitions, meaning the compiled code had to come in under 64k.

I'll give you a minute to process that.

 

[Leroy]

Minute up. You might have to be a programmer to appreciate this, but these guys are packing, effects, music, timings, hardware compatibility, all into 64k, it's fucking amazing. How big did beeftree ship? 8 gigs?

 

[OG buckshot jr]

No need, I understand fully. That's amazing, I'm always fascinated with the pioneers of code.

EDIT: Yes, shit now-a-days is huge, but you have to realize it's due to textures and sound, mostly. The level of texture and sound is unreal now-a-days, and all using [really] unefficient formats. Space isn't an issue when coding, and I don't think it should be. Efficiency yes, but total space, who cares. Fuck, even cell phones have minimum 8GB now...

 

[Leroy]

Oh and one last thing, these demos usually ran at about ~30 fps on 25mhz machines.

 

[Leroy]

No need, I understand fully. That's amazing, I'm always fascinated with the pioneers of code.

No I don't think you do.

 

[OG buckshot jr]

No I don't think you do.

As a guy who knows enough C, C Sharp, HTML and VB, I think I do. I'm trying to re-learn C as I haven't used it in a dog's age so I can move on to PHP and Java.

 

[Brades]

liroy so serious

 

[Leroy]

No, you don't.

 

[OG buckshot jr]

OH WHAT. THE FUCK. EVER.

FAG.

 

[Leroy]

you and I are now fighting.

 

[OG buckshot jr]

you and I are now fighting.

Your boss-n[OHSHIT]er came on mumble one night when you weren't home. I totally hit on her, and she told me your feet smell.

 

[Leroy]

Your mom won't stop sending me letters, talking about croatia, and how I should have married a nice croatian girl, and she keeps cooking me breakfast and sending it to me.

Ok, you got me, can't talk bad about your moms.

 

[OG buckshot jr]

Hug it out?

 

[Brades]