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Canada's New Gov't Coalition Overthrow Thread !!!

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OG buckshot jr

TD Admin
- post anything you know about this new "coalition" and what it entails.
- is our current gov't really fucking us right now?
- is DION the idiot to kill us?
- the fuck is goin on?>!?!?!?

GIVE ER!!!
 

Spinny

TD Admin / Giant Faggot
Coalition is stupid, big waste of time and taxpayers money, another election probably in like 6 months, fuckin stoooopid
 

Leroy

2012 Troll of the Year
This is a very dangerous thing. One thing the politicians are missing (read: Dion, layten) is that Canada WANTS the conservatives in power. Albeit a minority, but nobody wants the fucking NDP making any fucking decisions, and lets not even talk about the eeediot dion.

So what is going to happen is any move the conservatives make, the "coalition" (god I hate this pendantic wording) will nix. We as Canadians are going to have to be swift and move like a fox to mitigate damage to our economy caused by the global financial crisis (groan, you mean the southern american bank crash). And this will only serve to slow us down, if anything, its going to make canadians a little bit more cautious in spending our hard-earned dollars, and in a consumer-based capitilistic economy, this only spells trouble.

I fucking hate the NDP for more reason now. Socialist bastard.

for those who invest, campbells soup shares are going up.
 
Coalition will fall within a month or two if it does get to take power.. Too many people leading it to have it agree on enough issues..

If the coalition takes power, it will fall within a month or two, the government will dissolve parliament and an election will be called.. Conservatives win a nasty majority with the other 3 parties looking like crackwhores after alienating their constituents.. WAY TO GO LEFT WING SOCIALIST SEPERATISTS!

For once in my lifetime, the Conservatives seem like the most rational party.. WOWZERS!
 

OG buckshot jr

TD Admin
man, any gov't is going to fuck us - the only question is HOW much, and WHO will we let fuck us. And I, for one, am NOT letting some little french bastard run CANADA...go the fuck back to France and do your shit there... assholes
 

OG buckshot jr

TD Admin
i wish quebec seperated already... keep their bullshit out of the rest of Canada....Winnipeg is no longer the "armpit" of Canada, Quebec is... ;)
 

Leadfoot

TD Member
The Three Stooges of Coupscam
by Charles Adler
Dec 1/08

Let's be clear about something. The ECONOMY has NOTHING to do with the
not so silent coup that is taking place as we watch history...need a
name for it? remember Adscam? Call this one COUPSCAM. It's a perfect
name for what's happening on several levels and it is so Canadian..So
bilingual. So au bilingue. COUPSCAM. A coup that is dressed up as a bid
by the opposition to help the economy. Of course it is not anything
close to that, as we learned over the weekend when we heard the tape of
Jack Layton telling his caucus, that he had a deal in place way back
when with Gilles Duceppe, to strike when the iron became hot. The
economy would simply be the rationale used to hit, and to hit hard. One
needs to forgive anyone who regular votes Liberal if they feel some
shame listening to Jack Layton the of the archicects of the coup, who
along with Bloc Quebecois leader Gilles Duceppe, leading the Liberals
into the corral. The Liberals were at one time known as the natural
national governing party. They now have become the sheep being herded by
the two great sheep herders of Canada, the two men who are motivated by
their love of country? Now to quote from Sheep herder Layton from his
weekend NDP caucus meeting..."We're in the middle of a very historic
time, *and we're playing a key role in it, in some ways a catalytic role
actually, because as we think back, we'll realize that nobody really
imagined that it would be possible for the Bloc Quebecois, the Liberal
party of Canada ever to enter into any kind of a discussion around the
future of the country and it turned out that we were the glue*, and
spotted and prepared for the opportunity, and had taken the steps that
were required so that when that opportunity arose, which was when Mr.
Harper made his disastrous strategic error, by not providing stimulus to
the economy, and instead playing political games, we were able to move,
and things began to move very quickly, however, many obstacles remain in
our way, and so we're in a real battle now. The negotiating process, I
am, by the way in very regular touch with the leader of the Liberal
party, and the leader of the Bloc, frequently every day."

So there you have it Sheep Herder Layton saying that they were preparing
for the opportunity and it arose last week. This is known in polite
circles as opportunism. Many of you who have emailed me in the last few
days have been calling it treason. For the record this is not legal
treason. But one would not be on shaky ground in calling it ethical
treason. Nobody doubts that this plot is undermining confidence in
Canada and nobody doubts that this will sew seeds of resentment in
various parts of Canada. Nobody doubts that it will make this a less
unified country. Imagine the reaction in Western Canada if a coup led by
the the Toronto based NDP of Jack Layton and Quebec separatists manages
to succeed and in doing so , immediately does damage to their number one
economic target the ENERGY industry. Does anyone doubt that the pols in
the east who want to hit the Conservatives will, if given power, hit the
energy industry? The can do with carbon taxes and other schemes designed
to attack Western Canadian wealth. These sheep herders know that the
flames of Western Separatism will immediately be ignited and how could
that possibly damage the fortunes of Quebec Separatism? A growing
western separatist movement is Quebec sovereignty's best friend. Is it
any wonder that Gilles Duceppe acts like a guy who knows he will have
one very Merry Christmas? Does anyone find it ironic that people like
Jean Chretien and Stephane Dion who made reputations for themselves as
staunch federalists would now in the lust for naked power lie down with
the separatist lion. Coupscam has many consequences. And a damaged
confederation is just one of them. Those who thrive on chaos, people
like Jack Layton and Gilles Duceppe and Bob Rae are loving this. One of
the big questions today is What is Michael Ignatieff thinking? If he is
using that big brain of his, as opposed to the little brain some of the
plotters are using, he will understand that a Liberal government dog
that is being wagged by a NDP/BlocQuebecois tale is a dog that will be
euthanized by the Canadian voter.

Folks what you need to remember the most about COUPSCAM is that it could
not happen without an incredible amount of blood lust coming from
ancient liberal party hacks who have seen the set on their empire. One
of those hacks is Scott Reid. He used to be a Paul Martin guy, his
communications guy, during the decline and fall of Liberalism in the
wake of ADSCAM. Scott Reid took his bitterness and blood lust to his
computer key board on the weekend and tapped out the following. If you
have some tiny shreds of doubt about what motivates Liberals to get on
board Coup Scam, this will shred the shreds.

"After all, Stephen Harper is the most dangerous animal lurking in the
jungles of Parliament, writes Scott Reid. Kill him. Kill him dead. Do
not, whatever you do, provide him with an opportunity to extend his hold
on power. Because you can be damn certain he will never again be so
reckless as to give you a chance to finish him off. ..The other elephant
in the room is leadership. Stephane Dion has bargained his way to the
drive wheel of the new government. Good for him, but only if it suits
the greater good. If Mr. Dion can make his case, then great. If he
can't, move to an alternative - and do it fast.

Mr. Harper knows that his greatest advantage lies in Mr. Dion's
weakness. The coalition can't let that impulse triumph. Don't permit the
defeat of Mr. Harper to depend upon Mr. Dion's personal credibility - or
that of any single individual, for that matter. There's too much at stake."


Those are the words of former Paul Martin communications director Scott
Reid. They tell you 2 things. 1) Coup Scam is not about serving the
public interest. It is about putting hemlock in Stephen Harper's orange
juice. It is not about economic satisfaction. It is about political
assassination. 2) Reid points out while Harper is the target, Dion needs
to be either a useful dunce or an expendable nuisance. The plotter who
wishes to kill Harper could care less about whether or not Dion is
collateral damage. There's too much at stake says the Liberal hack. No
single individual matters. No single individual can be permitted to get
in the way. And so the man who was part of the plot to overthrow Jean
Chretien,not for economic reasons or patriotic reasons but for the most
partisan of reasons, now wishes to destroy Stephen Harper.

There are a few things I'd like to say personally to the major players
in Coup Scam.

To Jack Layton:

Jack a couple of months ago you said you wanted to be prime minister and
that was the job you were applying for. You had to know at the time that
you would not get that job going through the front door and that was
confirmed with the election results. But since Harper was a dozen seats
short of a majority, you saw your move and you made it and over the
weekend, you confessed it. It's now on tape as historical record. I
guess if you are looking for a seat at the cabinet table, this is as
good as it gets. Bet you're disappointed as hell that Svend Robinson is
no longer a member of your caucus. Bet you think he would make as good a
foreign affairs minister as you would a finance minister. Good luck with
that Jack. And wish us all good luck. The Stock Market is just above 8
thousand 4hundred today. I guess from your perspective that is still 8
thousand four hundred more than your favorite number for Capitalism, ZERO.


To Gilles Duceppe:

Well I have to admit you must be laughing all the way to the bank these
days. When it come to fund raising your separatist brothers are more
bankrupt than Lehman Brothers. But over the last few years the Canadian
taxpayer has sent you more than 5 million dollars. You sit in the
hammock. We send you millions. It's a great deal for you and about to
get a lot better. While you won't likely have a seat at the cabinet
table, you will be an armed guard at the door, and if they don't do the
right things at the table, I suppose you can take them hostage, or to
use Scott Reid's words, just kill them all. Who knows? Maybe since you
are holding the gun, maybe you can negotiate yourself a cabinet
portfolio. May I respectfully suggest Minister of National Disunity.


And finally to Stephane Dion:

It must be a great disappointment to you Mr. Dion that as someone who
prided himself on being an arch enemy of separatism, that your final
political act is to become it's lap dog. Hard to believe you are doing
this. At one point these bums characterized you as a rat. That graphic
of you as a rat with the long narrow nose and the rat whiskers, was
plastered everywhere in Quebec. You betrayed Quebec they said. You were
a rat. These creeps and and thugs even blamed you for your own father's
suicide. They said he killed himself because he was ashamed of you. And
now you are willing to break bread with them and break the democratic
will of the Canaidian voter. And all for what? So that you can have an
asterisk in the Canadian history books. You can get the get the tax
payer to pay for your six month lease on 24 Sussex Drive. Is this worth
it to you Mr. Dion. Is this the way you want to go out, as a dog on a
leash held by Jack Layton and Gilles Duceppe?

People over the years have told me that you are an honest man, a
compassionate man, an earnest man. I now find it hard to think of you as
a man. A man faces the voters and honours their decision. Now you have
chosen to dishonour their decision, to dishonour democracy, to dishonour
Canada.

Canada will survive Coupscam. I always have faith in the inherent
decency of the Canadian people. But we will pay a heavy price. Our loony
will get plucked. Our wealth will get plundered and at times our faith
in Canada and pride in its people will be tested. But we will survive.
Canada has had much tougher opponents than Jack Layton, Gilles Duceppe
and Stephane Dion, the Three Stooges of Coup Scam.
 

Leadfoot

TD Member
A Political Crisis?


By Chuck Strahl MP



November 29, 2008



Last week I sent around an update on Canada’s economic situation, with the observation that it wasn’t a very enjoyable subject to write about. Unfortunately, this week it appears that our economic woes are morphing into a political crisis of sorts, at a time when we can least afford it. What’s happening in Ottawa is bordering on the absurd, but its impact would be felt most harshly by Canadians, not political parties. It is potentially a shame of historic proportions.



The Throne Speech I wrote about last week has now been passed. The Opposition Parties apparently had no trouble supporting the direction of the Conservative government, and in fact, they let it pass “on division”, which means they didn’t even want a stand up vote! When the Finance Minister tabled his economic update, though, things got ugly, mostly because the speech made reference to politicians and political parties receiving less from the government coffers. Suddenly, the Liberals and NDP want to form an alternative government, apparently by joining forces in a coalition, and supported by the separatist Bloc Quebecois.



This unholy alliance is trying to paint a different picture, of course. They say they simply want to spend more money to stimulate the economy, but when asked for details, it’s pretty thin gruel. Apparently they’re prepared to take the ‘ready, shoot, aim” approach to spending, and agree to some blank cheques without even knowing what will actually help specific industries, without knowing what Barak Obama has planned, and without working in concert with the other G-20 countries. It is a recipe for a fiscal disaster.



More importantly, it is a democratic disaster. During the campaign, Liberal leader Stephane Dion said he would not and could not have a coalition with the NDP, because their policies would destroy the economy. Apparently that principled position has now gone out the window. Now we have the prospect of the Liberals (with 77 seats) joining with the NDP (with 37 seats) to unseat the democratically elected Conservatives (with 143 seats) . Of course, the only way to do that would be with the support of the separatist Bloc Quebecois, who bring their votes to the table in exchange for their separatist agenda. It is almost beyond belief, but apparently the back room discussions amongst these parties are happening as I write this note.



As I said last week, our Conservative government has been preparing our economy for over a year to weather this world-wide economic storm as best we can. We have brought in almost $200 billion dollars in economic stimulus over a 5 year period, by lowering taxes across the board and in every category. We have freed up billions more by adopting Bank of Canada policies and mortgage protection that have increased the availability of credit and addressed liquidity issues, without costing the taxpayer too much and without risking our country’s core stability. The IMF, the World Economic Forum, the OECD and other international organizations are united in their opinions that Canada is in the best shape of any industrialized nation in the world. Now the left-leaning parties in Parliament are willing to risk it all in order to gain power through the back door, power that was denied to them in a general election.



In order to diffuse this crisis, our government has agreed to separate the political party financing issue from the confidence vote, and we’ll be bringing it back to Parliament in a stand-alone Bill for a vote next year. Whether a person believes the taxpayer should be forced to pay for political party finances will be debated and decided at another time. I’ll be supporting the Bill when it comes to a vote, and we’ll see what happens. For now, Canadians should be appalled that we could be thrown into a democratic and constitutional crisis by an attempt to gain power at any cost, to overthrow the democratically expressed will of the Canadian people, all at a critically important economic time for us all.



I’m uncertain where all of this is going, but it is entirely possible that the Conservatives could lose the confidence of Parliament and be forced into an election within days. You can’t run the government without revenue, and we simply must have the authority to pay the bills and stick to the agenda already approved in the Throne Speech. But it is also entirely possible that the Conservatives could be forced from government by the Liberal/NDP/Bloc coalition, if the Governor General agrees. Canada deserves better than either of these options, and we’ll be working hard to keep everyone focused on the economy, jobs, and a sound budgetary plan. We believe Canadians want us to get on with governing. But I just don’t know what will happen, and I share Canadian’s shock and anger that we’re teetering on this abyss at this critical time.



The vote to bring down the government will now take place on December 8th, so Canadians have a week or so to express themselves before that critical moment. I urge everyone to write a letter-to-the editor, call a radio talk show, circulate this article (or others) through their own email list, and contact political parties with their opinion. A strong grassroots reaction may be the only thing that stands between us and a Prime Minister Stephane Dion and Finance Minister Jack Layton.
 

Leadfoot

TD Member
A Political Crisis?


By Chuck Strahl MP



November 29, 2008



Last week I sent around an update on Canada’s economic situation, with the observation that it wasn’t a very enjoyable subject to write about. Unfortunately, this week it appears that our economic woes are morphing into a political crisis of sorts, at a time when we can least afford it. What’s happening in Ottawa is bordering on the absurd, but its impact would be felt most harshly by Canadians, not political parties. It is potentially a shame of historic proportions.



The Throne Speech I wrote about last week has now been passed. The Opposition Parties apparently had no trouble supporting the direction of the Conservative government, and in fact, they let it pass “on division”, which means they didn’t even want a stand up vote! When the Finance Minister tabled his economic update, though, things got ugly, mostly because the speech made reference to politicians and political parties receiving less from the government coffers. Suddenly, the Liberals and NDP want to form an alternative government, apparently by joining forces in a coalition, and supported by the separatist Bloc Quebecois.



This unholy alliance is trying to paint a different picture, of course. They say they simply want to spend more money to stimulate the economy, but when asked for details, it’s pretty thin gruel. Apparently they’re prepared to take the ‘ready, shoot, aim” approach to spending, and agree to some blank cheques without even knowing what will actually help specific industries, without knowing what Barak Obama has planned, and without working in concert with the other G-20 countries. It is a recipe for a fiscal disaster.



More importantly, it is a democratic disaster. During the campaign, Liberal leader Stephane Dion said he would not and could not have a coalition with the NDP, because their policies would destroy the economy. Apparently that principled position has now gone out the window. Now we have the prospect of the Liberals (with 77 seats) joining with the NDP (with 37 seats) to unseat the democratically elected Conservatives (with 143 seats) . Of course, the only way to do that would be with the support of the separatist Bloc Quebecois, who bring their votes to the table in exchange for their separatist agenda. It is almost beyond belief, but apparently the back room discussions amongst these parties are happening as I write this note.



As I said last week, our Conservative government has been preparing our economy for over a year to weather this world-wide economic storm as best we can. We have brought in almost $200 billion dollars in economic stimulus over a 5 year period, by lowering taxes across the board and in every category. We have freed up billions more by adopting Bank of Canada policies and mortgage protection that have increased the availability of credit and addressed liquidity issues, without costing the taxpayer too much and without risking our country’s core stability. The IMF, the World Economic Forum, the OECD and other international organizations are united in their opinions that Canada is in the best shape of any industrialized nation in the world. Now the left-leaning parties in Parliament are willing to risk it all in order to gain power through the back door, power that was denied to them in a general election.



In order to diffuse this crisis, our government has agreed to separate the political party financing issue from the confidence vote, and we’ll be bringing it back to Parliament in a stand-alone Bill for a vote next year. Whether a person believes the taxpayer should be forced to pay for political party finances will be debated and decided at another time. I’ll be supporting the Bill when it comes to a vote, and we’ll see what happens. For now, Canadians should be appalled that we could be thrown into a democratic and constitutional crisis by an attempt to gain power at any cost, to overthrow the democratically expressed will of the Canadian people, all at a critically important economic time for us all.



I’m uncertain where all of this is going, but it is entirely possible that the Conservatives could lose the confidence of Parliament and be forced into an election within days. You can’t run the government without revenue, and we simply must have the authority to pay the bills and stick to the agenda already approved in the Throne Speech. But it is also entirely possible that the Conservatives could be forced from government by the Liberal/NDP/Bloc coalition, if the Governor General agrees. Canada deserves better than either of these options, and we’ll be working hard to keep everyone focused on the economy, jobs, and a sound budgetary plan. We believe Canadians want us to get on with governing. But I just don’t know what will happen, and I share Canadian’s shock and anger that we’re teetering on this abyss at this critical time.



The vote to bring down the government will now take place on December 8th, so Canadians have a week or so to express themselves before that critical moment. I urge everyone to write a letter-to-the editor, call a radio talk show, circulate this article (or others) through their own email list, and contact political parties with their opinion. A strong grassroots reaction may be the only thing that stands between us and a Prime Minister Stephane Dion and Finance Minister Jack Layton.
 

Leadfoot

TD Member
Guys this is an embarrasment to Canada and political treason. Totally against the voters wishes. You all need to call write or email you mp and the Governer General and tell them that this cannot happen and that we want an election called.

Greg
 

buckshot

TD Member
sounds like those dudes need the BHA.

Gentlemen, put on ur capes! Admins, get your tie's on. WERE GOING TO OTTOWA!
 

Leadfoot

TD Member
With all the political turmoil going on right now we all need to speak up and let our democratic voice be heard. Please take the time to contact the gg's office and the pm's office and let them know how you feel. We as Canadians have to do this NOW!!!!





Governor Generals Office
We welcome your comments, questions and suggestions. You may send them by e-mail at: info@gg.ca. Please take note that because of the volume of requests we receive, we are not always able to respond immediately. Responses to specific inquiries can be expected within two to three weeks.

You may also reach us:

by phone at (613) 993-8200 or toll-free in Canada and the United States at 1 800 465-6890

by fax at (613) 998-8760

or by mail at
Rideau Hall
1 Sussex Drive
Ottawa, ON K1A 0A1

Prime Ministers Office


You can send your comments by e-mail to pm@pm.gc.ca or write or fax the Prime Minister’s office at:

Office of the Prime Minister
80 Wellington Street
Ottawa
K1A 0A2

Fax: 613-941-6900
 

Propaganda

TD Member
Only one solution. Alberta seperates, takes Manitoba and Saskatchewan. The rest of the country can have Dion and Layton.
 

Leroy

2012 Troll of the Year
I like how you think. I think I'm going to buy myself some rum, get smashed, and abuse our pubbie population tonight.
 

Propaganda

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I like how you think. I think I'm going to buy myself some rum, get smashed, and abuse our pubbie population tonight.


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Make sure you slay anyone with more than a 1:1 KD
 
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