Bob's Noob Thread (Computer related)
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Steve
TD Admin | Bacon
[quote1272050465=buckshot]
i pee on all your ati cards with my 8800 Ultra! Its runnin bc2 everything max with 4 or 8 anti aliasing on 1920 x 1200! Tiger is seeling them for 195 a piece cause they arent being made anymore! GET IT!
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bitch please the $195 you spend on one ultra you could get two 4850's and run them in CF. 8800 is a good card but its not a very good price.
i pee on all your ati cards with my 8800 Ultra! Its runnin bc2 everything max with 4 or 8 anti aliasing on 1920 x 1200! Tiger is seeling them for 195 a piece cause they arent being made anymore! GET IT!
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bitch please the $195 you spend on one ultra you could get two 4850's and run them in CF. 8800 is a good card but its not a very good price.
OG buckshot jr
TD Admin
[quote1272055245=Steve]
[quote1272050465=buckshot]
i pee on all your ati cards with my 8800 Ultra! Its runnin bc2 everything max with 4 or 8 anti aliasing on 1920 x 1200! Tiger is seeling them for 195 a piece cause they arent being made anymore! GET IT!
[/quote1272050465]
bitch please the $195 you spend on one ultra you could get two 4850's and run them in CF. 8800 is a good card but its not a very good price.
[/quote1272055245]
You're right. But it's an Ultra 768 MB. You know, the one that has 128GB/s that isn't matched by anything up to a $300 GTX260+ or a $250 4870+
Either way, they're both really good configs.
@ Bob, you're right - it's all preference man. Choose your final setup, run it by this thread and we'll holla.
[quote1272050465=buckshot]
i pee on all your ati cards with my 8800 Ultra! Its runnin bc2 everything max with 4 or 8 anti aliasing on 1920 x 1200! Tiger is seeling them for 195 a piece cause they arent being made anymore! GET IT!
[/quote1272050465]
bitch please the $195 you spend on one ultra you could get two 4850's and run them in CF. 8800 is a good card but its not a very good price.
[/quote1272055245]
You're right. But it's an Ultra 768 MB. You know, the one that has 128GB/s that isn't matched by anything up to a $300 GTX260+ or a $250 4870+
Either way, they're both really good configs.
@ Bob, you're right - it's all preference man. Choose your final setup, run it by this thread and we'll holla.
B.From.Acc
TD Admin
[quote1272269485=OG buckshot jr]
[quote1272055245=Steve]
[quote1272050465=buckshot]
i pee on all your ati cards with my 8800 Ultra! Its runnin bc2 everything max with 4 or 8 anti aliasing on 1920 x 1200! Tiger is seeling them for 195 a piece cause they arent being made anymore! GET IT!
[/quote1272050465]
bitch please the $195 you spend on one ultra you could get two 4850's and run them in CF. 8800 is a good card but its not a very good price.
[/quote1272055245]
You're right. But it's an Ultra 768 MB. You know, the one that has 128GB/s that isn't matched by anything up to a $300 GTX260+ or a $250 4870+
Either way, they're both really good configs.
@ Bob, you're right - it's all preference man. Choose your final setup, run it by this thread and we'll holla.
[/quote1272269485]
cool will do, down in minneapolis right now, banging steve's mom... but seriously, i am. so sweet.
saw a concert and heading back to winnipeg on tuesday then work starts = cash flow = computer. :)
as of right now, AMD + ATI looks like my near future.
[quote1272055245=Steve]
[quote1272050465=buckshot]
i pee on all your ati cards with my 8800 Ultra! Its runnin bc2 everything max with 4 or 8 anti aliasing on 1920 x 1200! Tiger is seeling them for 195 a piece cause they arent being made anymore! GET IT!
[/quote1272050465]
bitch please the $195 you spend on one ultra you could get two 4850's and run them in CF. 8800 is a good card but its not a very good price.
[/quote1272055245]
You're right. But it's an Ultra 768 MB. You know, the one that has 128GB/s that isn't matched by anything up to a $300 GTX260+ or a $250 4870+
Either way, they're both really good configs.
@ Bob, you're right - it's all preference man. Choose your final setup, run it by this thread and we'll holla.
[/quote1272269485]
cool will do, down in minneapolis right now, banging steve's mom... but seriously, i am. so sweet.
saw a concert and heading back to winnipeg on tuesday then work starts = cash flow = computer. :)
as of right now, AMD + ATI looks like my near future.
B.From.Acc
TD Admin
which one would you pick from both battles/or overall?
Face-off #1: (~$140 ballpark)
A: Gefore GTS 250 1GB ( http://tinyurl.com/39ctvtf )
OR
B: Radeon HD 5750 1GB ( http://tinyurl.com/39fnw2c )
Face-off #2: (~$120 ballpark)
A: GeForce GTS 250 1GB ( http://tinyurl.com/2awmwyt )
OR
B: Radeon HD 4850 1GB ( http://tinyurl.com/2w7kvv5 )
Questions:
-Memory "bit" make a difference? ie. 128vs256.
-Whats the price difference between the 2 Geforce GTS 250s for? Card manufacture?
Face-off #1: (~$140 ballpark)
A: Gefore GTS 250 1GB ( http://tinyurl.com/39ctvtf )
OR
B: Radeon HD 5750 1GB ( http://tinyurl.com/39fnw2c )
Face-off #2: (~$120 ballpark)
A: GeForce GTS 250 1GB ( http://tinyurl.com/2awmwyt )
OR
B: Radeon HD 4850 1GB ( http://tinyurl.com/2w7kvv5 )
Questions:
-Memory "bit" make a difference? ie. 128vs256.
-Whats the price difference between the 2 Geforce GTS 250s for? Card manufacture?
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gts-250,2172-7.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446-9.html
Can't spend a lot of time looking into the results, but here's some data that could help.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446-9.html
Can't spend a lot of time looking into the results, but here's some data that could help.
B.From.Acc
TD Admin
cheers, thanks auron.
OG buckshot jr
TD Admin
Get minimum of 256-bit, NO 128-bit. Huge difference. Ya there's a fuckload of video card manufacturers (i.e. Sapphire, Diamond, BFG, XFX, EVGA, Asus, etc etc) and they all do little tweaks such as small changes in core clock (speed), memory clock, shader clock, and cooling. Stick with the 250 over the 5750 though, it's much better.
B.From.Acc
TD Admin
thanks Jr. for the advice.
[quote1272578145=Steve]
case: Get something with great air flow.. I suggest the Cooler Master 932.. look for it on sale.
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steve, is this the case you're talking about? good sale price?
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4146085&Sku=C283-1187
[quote1272578145=Steve]
case: Get something with great air flow.. I suggest the Cooler Master 932.. look for it on sale.
[/quote1272578145]
steve, is this the case you're talking about? good sale price?
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4146085&Sku=C283-1187
OG buckshot jr
TD Admin
Referring to Hinouchi's question, as well as Cock's comments: Size whore, sure, for the same money, who shouldn't be. But here's why. The "bit-bus" in a system (in this case, a video card system) is the size of the bus that carries information to and from the processor and ram. This could be looked at like a front-side bus, perhaps. Think of a water-pump system. A tank of water, a pump drawing water out of the tank to fill a pool. If the hose your using is really thin, it won't matter how fast/how many horse-power your pump is because the thickness (or lack thereof) of the hose will be the limiting factor in the amount of water per minute (as an example of measurement).
Now, with high memory clocks, and high core clock (gpu) speed, a relatively small bit-bus such as 128-bit would be the limiting factor. Not so on slower video cards, but as these video cards are being produced increasingly faster, a higher bit-bus of AT LEAST 256bit will make a world of difference.
This same movement (from lower to higher bit-bus) can also be found in the architecture of Operating Systems -> From 32bit to 64bit-bus, it's no different (in terms of design and intent).
That's why I rank it so important. All good cards are minimum 256-bit, if not 384-bit.
Now, with high memory clocks, and high core clock (gpu) speed, a relatively small bit-bus such as 128-bit would be the limiting factor. Not so on slower video cards, but as these video cards are being produced increasingly faster, a higher bit-bus of AT LEAST 256bit will make a world of difference.
This same movement (from lower to higher bit-bus) can also be found in the architecture of Operating Systems -> From 32bit to 64bit-bus, it's no different (in terms of design and intent).
That's why I rank it so important. All good cards are minimum 256-bit, if not 384-bit.
Let me brake this down,
You can buy the card with no DX 11 support and slightly less performance
Or
you can spend the same amount get better performance (slightly)
get yourself DX11, (future support!)
use less power which should save you money.
and be quieter.
Links about performance
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5570-review/18
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446-5.html
Link about Power/Sound
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446-15.html
*shrugs*
You can buy the card with no DX 11 support and slightly less performance
Or
you can spend the same amount get better performance (slightly)
get yourself DX11, (future support!)
use less power which should save you money.
and be quieter.
Links about performance
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5570-review/18
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446-5.html
Link about Power/Sound
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446-15.html
*shrugs*
Hinouchi
TD Admin
[quote1272637861=OG buckshot jr]
Referring to Hinouchi's question, as well as Cock's comments: Size whore, sure, for the same money, who shouldn't be. But here's why. The "bit-bus" in a system (in this case, a video card system) is the size of the bus that carries information to and from the processor and ram. This could be looked at like a front-side bus, perhaps. Think of a water-pump system. A tank of water, a pump drawing water out of the tank to fill a pool. If the hose your using is really thin, it won't matter how fast/how many horse-power your pump is because the thickness (or lack thereof) of the hose will be the limiting factor in the amount of water per minute (as an example of measurement).
Now, with high memory clocks, and high core clock (gpu) speed, a relatively small bit-bus such as 128-bit would be the limiting factor. Not so on slower video cards, but as these video cards are being produced increasingly faster, a higher bit-bus of AT LEAST 256bit will make a world of difference.
This same movement (from lower to higher bit-bus) can also be found in the architecture of Operating Systems -> From 32bit to 64bit-bus, it's no different (in terms of design and intent).
That's why I rank it so important. All good cards are minimum 256-bit, if not 384-bit.
[/quote1272637861]
did some googleing, and found out that "It is the same since GDDR5 transfers twice the amount of data compared to GDDR3, hence it would equivalent to doubling bus width"
so in the end, it's same shit. but GDDR5 use less power and such + with DX11
Referring to Hinouchi's question, as well as Cock's comments: Size whore, sure, for the same money, who shouldn't be. But here's why. The "bit-bus" in a system (in this case, a video card system) is the size of the bus that carries information to and from the processor and ram. This could be looked at like a front-side bus, perhaps. Think of a water-pump system. A tank of water, a pump drawing water out of the tank to fill a pool. If the hose your using is really thin, it won't matter how fast/how many horse-power your pump is because the thickness (or lack thereof) of the hose will be the limiting factor in the amount of water per minute (as an example of measurement).
Now, with high memory clocks, and high core clock (gpu) speed, a relatively small bit-bus such as 128-bit would be the limiting factor. Not so on slower video cards, but as these video cards are being produced increasingly faster, a higher bit-bus of AT LEAST 256bit will make a world of difference.
This same movement (from lower to higher bit-bus) can also be found in the architecture of Operating Systems -> From 32bit to 64bit-bus, it's no different (in terms of design and intent).
That's why I rank it so important. All good cards are minimum 256-bit, if not 384-bit.
[/quote1272637861]
did some googleing, and found out that "It is the same since GDDR5 transfers twice the amount of data compared to GDDR3, hence it would equivalent to doubling bus width"
so in the end, it's same shit.
but GDDR5 use less power and such + with DX11
B.From.Acc
TD Admin
[quote1273215739=cock]
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/charts
Best CPU chart I've found.
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sweet find! thanks cock. and also to those who answered.
i'm definately staying with ≥256bit from a memory aspect.
and i'm also gonna hold off till atleast august it looks like, thats when my buddy gets his intel deal. and hes gonna give me the new products this year, not his handy-downs from 2 years ago. last year he gave away his i7-920XM extreme edition with an intel mobo. can't wait to see what he gets this year!!
and keep this thread unlocked please, cause i'll be back to use it and ask more questions.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/charts
Best CPU chart I've found.
[/quote1273215739]
sweet find! thanks cock. and also to those who answered.
i'm definately staying with ≥256bit from a memory aspect.
and i'm also gonna hold off till atleast august it looks like, thats when my buddy gets his intel deal. and hes gonna give me the new products this year, not his handy-downs from 2 years ago. last year he gave away his i7-920XM extreme edition with an intel mobo. can't wait to see what he gets this year!!
and keep this thread unlocked please, cause i'll be back to use it and ask more questions.
B.From.Acc
TD Admin
my buddy sent me a text with what he is able to get from intel this year.
-i7-940
-intel extreme mobo
- and assisines creed 2 lol (no copy of windows 7 this year
)
i don't know the model number for the mobo, but is all this a good price for $450 based off these details? i was looking at all the online stores and can't find the i7-940 in stock so i couldn't find a ballpark price..
-i7-940
-intel extreme mobo
- and assisines creed 2 lol (no copy of windows 7 this year
)i don't know the model number for the mobo, but is all this a good price for $450 based off these details? i was looking at all the online stores and can't find the i7-940 in stock so i couldn't find a ballpark price..
OG buckshot jr
TD Admin
If I'm not mistaken, I'm pretty sure the i7-940 is a small upgrade in clock speed to the i7-920 - something like this:
i7-920: 2.66Ghz 8MB Cache
i7-940: 2.8Ghz 8MB Cache
Of course the price difference is huge (even for just 140Mhz, Intel will almost double it). I've seen the chip hover around $600-800 according to TigerDirect, however I couldn't tell you current price.
Even still, that's a good price for the both of them. There is one thing - the Intel Board. I'm pretty sure (somebody back me up, I can't remember) that Intel boards are not good to overclock on, for one reason or the other - they just can't sustain the speeds that other boards such as Asus and Gigabyte achieve.
I'll try to back my shit up for you.
i7-920: 2.66Ghz 8MB Cache
i7-940: 2.8Ghz 8MB Cache
Of course the price difference is huge (even for just 140Mhz, Intel will almost double it). I've seen the chip hover around $600-800 according to TigerDirect, however I couldn't tell you current price.
Even still, that's a good price for the both of them. There is one thing - the Intel Board. I'm pretty sure (somebody back me up, I can't remember) that Intel boards are not good to overclock on, for one reason or the other - they just can't sustain the speeds that other boards such as Asus and Gigabyte achieve.
I'll try to back my shit up for you.
47
TD Admin, Chicken Licker, Top Shelf Sleeper
940 vs 930
940 :
CPU_MC
Essentials
Status Launched
Launch Date Q4'08
Processor Number i7-940
# of Cores 4
# of Threads 8
Clock Speed 2.93 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency 3.2 GHz
Intel® Smart Cache 8 MB
Bus/Core Ratio 22
Intel® QPI Speed 4.8 GT/s
# of QPI Links 1
Instruction Set 64-bit
Instruction Set Extensions SSE4.2
Embedded Options Available No
Supplemental SKU No
Lithography 45 nm
Max TDP 130 W
VID Voltage Range 0.800V-1.375V
1ku Bulk Budgetary Price $562.00
930:
CPU_MC
Essentials
Status Launched
Launch Date Q1'10
Processor Number i7-930
# of Cores 4
# of Threads 8
Clock Speed 2.8 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency 3.06 GHz
Intel® Smart Cache 8 MB
Bus/Core Ratio 21
Intel® QPI Speed 4.8 GT/s
# of QPI Links 1
Instruction Set 64-bit
Instruction Set Extensions SSE4.2
Embedded Options Available No
Supplemental SKU No
Lithography 45 nm
Max TDP 130 W
VID Voltage Range 0.800V-1.375V
1ku Bulk Budgetary Price $294.00
940 :
CPU_MC
Essentials
Status Launched
Launch Date Q4'08
Processor Number i7-940
# of Cores 4
# of Threads 8
Clock Speed 2.93 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency 3.2 GHz
Intel® Smart Cache 8 MB
Bus/Core Ratio 22
Intel® QPI Speed 4.8 GT/s
# of QPI Links 1
Instruction Set 64-bit
Instruction Set Extensions SSE4.2
Embedded Options Available No
Supplemental SKU No
Lithography 45 nm
Max TDP 130 W
VID Voltage Range 0.800V-1.375V
1ku Bulk Budgetary Price $562.00
930:
CPU_MC
Essentials
Status Launched
Launch Date Q1'10
Processor Number i7-930
# of Cores 4
# of Threads 8
Clock Speed 2.8 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency 3.06 GHz
Intel® Smart Cache 8 MB
Bus/Core Ratio 21
Intel® QPI Speed 4.8 GT/s
# of QPI Links 1
Instruction Set 64-bit
Instruction Set Extensions SSE4.2
Embedded Options Available No
Supplemental SKU No
Lithography 45 nm
Max TDP 130 W
VID Voltage Range 0.800V-1.375V
1ku Bulk Budgetary Price $294.00