[BANNED] "Aimbotting" Really? Seriously?

[Mr. Doodleburger]

I was banned for "aimbotting," wow! I've been in your server for about two weeks now, and all of a sudden I'm banned for aimbotting? That doesn't make sense how I'm randomly banned. I don't hack, I don't aimbot. I really enjoyed playing in your server which is the only reason why I'm even protesting this. This ban has to be a joke, I can't believe I was seriously banned for "aimbotting." I've caused no problems in your server, I've been very friendly, and this is how I get treated? I get banned for "aimbotting?" Really? Please provide some kind of demo or proof I aimbot, because this is absolutely ridiculous. I've played counterstrike on and off for over 6 years, so I understand your confusion when you see someone who is actually skilled. Please remove the ban, thanks.

 

[Shotgun Jesus]

Nice new Steam ID. All ready banned on 4 servers including ours. Have a nice life.

 

[Mr. Doodleburger]

Having a newer steam ID doesn't prove anything... I forgot my login for my older account, that certainly doesn't make me a hacker.

Banned on four other servers? What are you talking about? What servers?

Where is the demo, the evidence, of me "aimbotting?"

 

[Shotgun Jesus]

Google your Steam ID, bud. Later.

 

[Mr. Doodleburger]

AHP banned me for getting a few lucky shots through a smoked doorway. I shot through general areas that people frequently walked through at the beginning of the round and got lucky. They banned me for "no smoke," not aimbot, and failed to provide a demo.

The only other ban was a random server I joined, and because I did good I was banned. Notice there are no demos posted, because I don't hack and there is no evidence.

Those are the only two bans I've received, and they're bogus.

So I'll ask for the third time, can you provide a demo and PROVE any of the accusations, or are you going to keep accusing with no evidence? If you have no proof, no demo, how can you say I "aimbot?" This server really allows bans without a demo? Wow.

 

[Cock]

The only other ban was a random server I joined, and because I did good I was banned. Notice there are no demos posted, because I don't hack and there is no evidence.

Those are the only two bans I've received, and they're bogus.

I like how you go from "Banned where?" to "All Bans against me are bogus!"

So I'll ask for the third time, can you provide a demo and PROVE any of the accusations, or are you going to keep accusing with no evidence? If you have no proof, no demo, how can you say I "aimbot?" This server really allows bans without a demo? Wow.

We will review the Demo's we have.
Doesn't help your case that other communities have seen what we've seen and banned you. Not sure how long it will take, I would estimate a week.

 

[Mr. Doodleburger]

He said I was banned from 4 servers, including this one, that is false. I wanted to know what servers he was referring to, I wasn't denying anything, I never said I hadn't been banned before, had I?

They are bogus, there is no evidence, no demos. If I do hack, then provide demos and evidence, don't just make accusations.

Thanks for taking the time to handle this situation like a mature admin, and not say "see ya later bud" and allow an unjust, and unfair ban to be upheld without further investigation.

 

[Cock]

I think SJ is trying not to get your hopes up.
This doesn't look very good even without "proof", because we both know any demo's we show you'll scoff at.

 

[Mr. Doodleburger]

If I'm a hacker it will be obvious lmao, I don't have to resort to cheats to be good, I'm not scum that low.

 

[Shotgun Jesus]

Out of curiosity, what's your old Steam ID.

 

[jamesearljones]

I was banned for "aimbotting," wow! I've been in your server for about two weeks now, and all of a sudden I'm banned for aimbotting? That doesn't make sense how I'm randomly banned. I don't hack, I don't aimbot. I really enjoyed playing in your server which is the only reason why I'm even protesting this. This ban has to be a joke, I can't believe I was seriously banned for "aimbotting." I've caused no problems in your server, I've been very friendly, and this is how I get treated? I get banned for "aimbotting?" Really? Please provide some kind of demo or proof I aimbot, because this is absolutely ridiculous. I've played counterstrike on and off for over 6 years, so I understand your confusion when you see someone who is actually skilled. Please remove the ban, thanks.

This usually happens in real life. There's tentative proof, and the alleged party gets super defensive. I say guilty. If it wasn't you who was banned on 4 other independent servers with your steam id, who was it?

 

[OG buckshot jr]

When will people in TD fuckin learn not to post here.... I don't get it... *Shakes head

 

[Cock]

If I'm a hacker it will be obvious lmao,

Your right, kinda like...
A) Multiple HS through smoke
B) 77% HS ratio on over 400 Kills
C) Multiple Communities think your suspect
D) New steam ID... because you apparently don't know how to reset a password

All of these things of course mean little by themselves, however together, they paint an obvious picture to many.

Out of curiosity, what's your old Steam ID.

I second this,

 

[Mr. Doodleburger]

James, there is no "tentative proof" of anything. I wasn't banned on 4 other servers, maybe you should read this thread again. If you were innocent you'd probably be "very defensive" too. If I was really hacking why the hell would I spend all of my energy trying to get unbanned?

I'd call those things skill, getting headshots isn't very hard if you have played this game a lot and know how to aim... Headshots through smoke? I must have got lucky. I don't remember my steam ID, if I had I wouldn't have spent my hard earned money buying a new game.

Is there any proof of the aimbot, or is this ban going to be lifted? I was banned for "aimbotting," so is there any proof of that? If there is not any evidence for that in itself, which was the reason for the ban, then the ban is not just and should be removed immediately if this is a fair gaming community. You're trying to put all of these things together to make me look like a cheater, but anything other than evidence of aimbotting is really irrelevant. I wasn't banned for getting a few lucky kills through smoke, I wasn't banned for being a good player, I wasn't banned for being banned on two other servers, and I wasn't banned for making a new steam ID; I was banned because some of you think I "aimbot." So, can you simply provide ANY evidence of this, or can you not? If you can't, then you must remove the ban if you consider yourself a just and fair admin.

Even if A, B, C, and D are true, and you add them all together, it still doesn't prove anything since they can each be explained.

A. I got lucky.
B. I have skill.
C. With no evidence, not even a demo. Only 1 other community, the other ban was by a random admin who banned me cause he raged. I was only banned by 2 other servers.
D. People forget things, especially after not using a service for almost a year.

Those things can be explained, easily. They don't prove anything at all, that doesn't prove I'm an aimbotter. Even when you add them together it doesn't equal an aimbotter. You have to have evidence, like a demo! Why do I have to explain what evidence is to "admins?"!!!!!!!

 

[Steve]

When will people in TD fuckin learn not to post here.... I don't get it... *Shakes head

*delete's just bj's post*

:)

 

[Cock]

like I said before any proof we provide you will scoff at. Instead Prove it to us, Record a video of you playing (not a demo).

IT IS NOT YOUR RIGHT TO PLAY ON TD SERVERS IT IS A PRIVLEDGE.

Amen.

 

[Mr. Doodleburger]

I was banned for aimbotting. You are refusing to provide evidence of aimbot, therefore this ban needs to be removed immediately. Instead, you're telling me to record myself and post it? This doesn't even make any sense. I don't have to provide the proof, YOU DO! The burden of proof is on you since YOU'RE the one making the claim I aimbotted. I'm not making a claim on myself, you're twisting this around.

I'm not going to scoff at anything, I'm here to tell the truth. Something is obviously fishy here, you're making up all of these excuses as to why I'm an aimbotter and as to why you can't provide evidence. Either you have evidence or you don't. If you don't, remove the ban; it's simple.

Just admit you're wrong. Swallow your pride, all of you admins, and say "Hey, we don't have a demo, we're sorry we thought you hacked." Or say, "We have demos, but they don't prove anything. We're going to do the RIGHT THING and remove the ban, sorry." Instead, you're trying to prove your superiority or something and you're too stubborn to admit I'm right and that I don't aimbot. Be men of truth, even if you're wrong, not men of pride.

 

[TurboTaco]

Wow, this has gone on long enough.

Listen chump, DGN isn't a physical democratic country of some western nation that holds a constitution or charter of rights for its members. We are an online gaming community, a hell of a great one at that, and you have no 'rights' here.

Your huffery and puffery is dramatic and all, but if you really want to make a stink, send a letter to your MPP.

YOU telling US that we need to do anything at all is a joke. You know why? Because we don't have to do anything in regards to your case. We could have completely ignored you, locked this thread, and maintain the ban permanently. You know what you can do? Nothing about it, except go find a different server.

In regards to our stance on OUR admins and OUR adminning process, DGN fully supports them. We TRUST our admins to make the right decisions, even if 'evidence' is not always readily available. Our admins have played CSS/TF2 for a long time now, and we have all seen hackers/griefers/douches and have dealt with them in a fair and consistent way. Yes there are cases where we make mistakes, we investigate, and we UNBAN sometimes.

We have demos, we have noted that you have been banned from other servers, as well as other issues in regards to your appeal that has stood out. Our admins have been trying to tell you our stance on the matter but you keep providing the circular argument: no evidence, unban.

Well, Cock has given you an option, and that option is completely up to your own discretion: Record a demo of yourself playing and getting your "A, B, C, D's" all in it and we would probably consider that good reason to have you unbanned.

You find that unfair? Well too bad. Other banned players who have appealed here have squealed the same written diarrhea as you have pretty much on all your points. The only difference is when we ask them to record a demo of them being 'skilled and pro' they have complied, or went silent.

So there you have it. Find a server, record a demo, own it up like a pro, upload it, link it here. If you don't want to, don't. If you feel like it's unfair, get over it. Life is unfair.

We don't play by YOUR rules when it comes to OUR server and OUR community. YOU do.

I would even say ban you for just being a douchebag thinking he has a golden ticket to trounce around here like you own the place, but that would be TOO unfair.

The ball is in your court.

 

[iCe]

like I said before any proof we provide you will scoff at. Instead Prove it to us, Record a video of you playing (not a demo).


Amen.

+1

Just admit you're wrong. Swallow your pride, all of you admins, and say "Hey, we don't have a demo, we're sorry we thought you hacked." Or say, "We have demos, but they don't prove anything. We're going to do the RIGHT THING and remove the ban, sorry." Instead, you're trying to prove your superiority or something and you're too stubborn to admit I'm right and that I don't aimbot. Be men of truth, even if you're wrong, not men of pride.

LOLZ!

First off relax, no one is appologizing... see above it is not your right to play on our gaming community but a priviledge...

Second who are you that we "should" believe you? Do you have any idea how many css players there are? or how many are tool bags?

Doubt it...

Go do the demo or GTFO

 

[Mr. Doodleburger]

1. I don't have rights here, but if you consider yourself a mature, and FAIR gaming community you won't ban people without a demo.
2. Huffery and puffery? Speaking the truth, and defending myself isn't huffery and puffery.
3. I'm appealing my ban, and I'm informing you on how a proper admin should handle this kind of situation. When someone is banned, the banning admin needs to provide evidence. That's how it typically works, thats how it should work, and its reasonable to handle bans like that. Provide proof of my aimbot if I hack, you have failed to do this.
4. If your admins have played so long, then why can't they get a simple demo of a player who hacks? Why not be sure and have proof a player hacks? Thats great you "trust" them, but even those with power can abuse their admin. If they're such great admins, recording a quick demo of a hacker should be no problem.
5. If you had read the thread, you would see that I have already explained the other bans on 2 other servers. I don't need to repeat myself. My "circular" argument is the most logical and rational argument presented. If someone hacks, record a demo, and the ban is just and valid. If someone hacks, and you don't provide a demo, the ban is unjust and invalid. It's not hard to understand, and no demo has been presented here. Your "great admins" can't even provide a demo. Instead, they make excuses as to why they can't provide one! It's "MY" fault due to my "DEFENSIVENESS" that I can't see the demo?! HA HA! That logic is utter nonsense, and your admins clearly have no demo. If there is blatant aimbotting I would be in the wrong, wouln't I? If there is CLEAR evidence of aimbotting, why not post it? Hmmmm, that doesn't seem fishy to you?

Defending myself doesn't mean I'm disrespectful, or that I think I own the place. I stand up for myself and become defensive when I speak the truth. You're getting all angry because I'm not some idiot who lets people manipulate me.

I'll record a demo of me pwning cry baby noobs, which is why I was banned. "Oh boo hoo, Doodle killed me and he's good, so that means hes a hacker! Boo hoo hoo!" Give me a break.