If you are asking me to repay the people, there is no way in hell I can do that after 3 years. My trade history is way too big for me to go through every single slide and search for these few people that traded me, and that's if i'm able to recognize the people.
If your trade history is so large, clearly you would have been able to trade and payback the people back then. You just decided not to. You failed to meet a condition of the ban. It's not unreasonable for us to hold that against you here.
Not trying to downplay how much I fucked up, I am just saying I don't see how making hardly any profit is worse than impersonating an admin.
You passed yourself off as an admin so people would trust you and pay you the ref. You knowiingly lied to a large number of people so you could make some extra metal. No one is saying one is worse than the other. You made extra profit because you lied about being a staff member.
It's not like I don't want to, it just simply can't be done. Seems rather petty to me over 16 cents.
You could have when the terms were set by Fiend 3 years ago. It was very possible back then. You just decided not to.
In a real world situation, you wouldn't get arrested for stealing gum. Sure you may be fined, but not arrested, and certainly not a life time.
A more accurate comparison would be if you pretended to be the store employee while selling the stolen gum. You would definitely be arrested for that.
I certainly wasn't suppose to sell them, but as I did people were satisfied with them.
Do not pretend for a second that you did this for the benefit of the people.
There was no scam involved, just a soiled darkly name.... Over 16 cents....
You lied to people and betrayed the trust of the community so you could make some extra metal. Your actions were fueled by your own greed and you used our name to hide it.
I know I don't get to decide on the main issue, but I get to focus on my defense in these main issues and right now the main issue I am focusing on is the admin impersonation. Never said what I did with the exploit in the system making profit off of it was bad, but I just am not focusing too much on it because I don't have any proof of this since it was 3 years ago, and also it was only about 2 ref that I gained without giving back.
The two go hand in hand. You impersonated an admin so people would believe you were allowed to sell perks, thereby allowing you to make a profit. There's no separation.
And plus it's not up to you on giving back the ref. I didn't scam anybody, it's up to them. I don't know what makes you think that I "owe" anything back.
Fiend set the condition for you being unbanned. You were to pay back the people and after 6 months, he would revisit your case. You didn't hold up your end of the deal.
It's not up to you, since they were 100% satisfied with being temporarily resized in an act to have a little bit of fun. I should owe them back because what I did was wrong, but they knowingly wanted resized and were willing to pay for it.
And they paid you because you lied about being a staff member. You're acting like you were being honest with them when in reality, you were lying through your teeth to make a quick profit. You abused the exploit and their trust. Their satisfaction is irrelevant.
The amount of profit I actually pretty relevant because you are holding a grudge based on how I made any profit at all.
You aren't banned because you made a profit. If that's really what you think, you still don't understand how much you fucked up. You're banned because you impersonated an Admin to manipulate people's trust so they would pay you for perks you had no right to sell AND you lied about it when Fiend confronted you.
Refer to the real world situation I just made, yes it was a bad thing, but not worth the permanent ban.
Aside from the fact that I already corrected your real world situation, yes, it was very much worth the permanent ban if you actually think about what you did. For your convenience, I'll post it again.
You're banned because you impersonated an Admin to manipulate people's trust so they would pay you for perks you had no right to sell AND you lied about it when Fiend confronted you.
And even if, I waited 3 years for this moment and don't think for a second I was ashamed for this situation starting in the first place. This is a really long grudge that is being held at point here...
You keep saying 3 years like you were forced to wait that long, but hat was your decision. The reality is, if you had handled the situation correctly, you could have paid the people back then just checked back in after 6 months and Fiend could have handled this. Instead, you just did nothing. That's on you.
I appreciate you condensing your posts into one. It keeps the clutter down.
I wouldn't be so hard on you if I felt like you understood what you did wrong, but your constant attempts to downplay the severity of what you did makes me think you don't. I personally don't think you should be unbanned, but I'm now retired, so it's not up to me. I just figured that with my last post as a staff member, I would break down your argument and correct the places you seem to be a little unclear.
